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#370320 - 09/17/11 12:36 AM SEEK AND FIND
nltsaved Offline


Registered: 08/26/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Kc,Mo
Disclaimer

Be warned you may be inspired by what you read . you may get offended & if that is the case
let me apologize right now because that is not and will never be my intent. My post are meant for reflection & self examination. If you do not agree with my post or my faith that is fine everyone is at a different place in their life & also has the right to believe in what they want . I will not argue or debate i just want to share what i feel the holy spirit directs me to write. If you feel it is not for you than that is just fine but if it touches you and causes you to reflect and take inventory of your life that is also great . I also believe god gives us all we need to overcome our situations & circumstances .He gives us all we need to accomplish this . It is up to us to do the work. i always try to be honest & come with the truth and yes it hurts sometimes so brace yourself . if you can not handle it than stop now
and turn back. if you disagree with it that is fine feel free to make your own thread please do not read if
you do not take into consideration what this disclaimer explains . now it is on you . peace & blessings and may you be blessed and inspired to go to work






YOU ARE NOT YOUR OWN YOU BELONG TO THE MOST HIGH GOD THE CREATOR OF ALL THE UNIVERSE.
DO NOT TRY TO INTELLECTUALLY TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT JUST KNOW IN YOUR SPIRIT THAT YOU WHERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE . THE VERY SPIRIT THAT GAVE CHRIST LIFE DWELLS WITHING YOU . HIT YOUR KNEES AND SEEK HIM IN YOUR SPIRIT AND YOU WILL FIND HIM THERE.
FIND HIM NOT INTELLECTUALLY BUT IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH



Edited by nltsaved (09/23/11 11:07 PM)
_________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uYCAfpxrY
TRIGGER WARNING
Video of me telling my story
you are not alone never were
WRITTEN FORM
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339159#Post339159
Why i hate Religion but love Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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#370352 - 09/17/11 01:14 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: nltsaved]
Ever-fixed Mark Offline
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Registered: 01/02/10
Posts: 729
Loc: United States
I am the stuff of stars
swirled out of vacuum
I feel my place in the universe
and I know
I am my own, no others
and none can gainsay that truth

-efm

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Everybody here's got a story to tell
Everybody's been through their own hell
There's nothing too special about getting hurt
Getting over it, that takes the work

- "Duck and Cover" by Glen Phillips

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#370363 - 09/17/11 02:42 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: Ever-fixed Mark]
nltsaved Offline


Registered: 08/26/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Kc,Mo




Edited by nltsaved (09/18/11 04:47 PM)
Edit Reason: unproductive
_________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uYCAfpxrY
TRIGGER WARNING
Video of me telling my story
you are not alone never were
WRITTEN FORM
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339159#Post339159
Why i hate Religion but love Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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#370385 - 09/17/11 08:07 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: nltsaved]
Ever-fixed Mark Offline
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Registered: 01/02/10
Posts: 729
Loc: United States
I know nothing of you
Only that your poem sought to tell me
Like an abuser
Who I belong to and what I must do
I've done nothing
But assert my right
To self-knowledge and self-determination
Without judgement
And to reject others telling me what my truth is
Where I speak of "I", you speak only of "You"

-efm

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Everybody here's got a story to tell
Everybody's been through their own hell
There's nothing too special about getting hurt
Getting over it, that takes the work

- "Duck and Cover" by Glen Phillips

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#370388 - 09/17/11 10:01 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: Ever-fixed Mark]
nltsaved Offline


Registered: 08/26/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Kc,Mo
PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO YOU



Edited by nltsaved (09/18/11 04:48 PM)
Edit Reason: unproductive
_________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uYCAfpxrY
TRIGGER WARNING
Video of me telling my story
you are not alone never were
WRITTEN FORM
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339159#Post339159
Why i hate Religion but love Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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#370431 - 09/18/11 11:37 AM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: nltsaved]
Driftwood Offline


Registered: 05/27/11
Posts: 86
Loc: Colorado
nitsaved,
If you’ve found something spiritually meaningful in your life and want to share it with others, then that’s a generous, beautiful thing. But it’s difficult for some of us who’ve been sexually abused to be told in such commanding language that: “You are not your own,” “do not try to intellectually to figure it out,” “hit your knees,” etc.

Your intentions may be to share something good with us (and if so, thank you), but your tone is so authoritative. It’s not like you’re inviting us to come and explore this good thing you’ve found, but rather you’re demanding we submit to your view of the larger meanings and deeper mysteries of life. I’m guessing you didn’t mean to come across so harshly. On the other hand, if you want to proselytize for a religion, whether it’s Islam or Christianity or Judaism or whatever, that gets sticky. (I’m sure Islam has elements of beauty and mystery at its heart to recommend it, but I don’t want to be a Muslim, and if someone on this site commanded me onto my knees to Allah, I would resist.)

I didn’t read you post because I wanted to stir up trouble and I’m certainly not adding my voice to this thread for that reason. I happened to click on “SEEK AND FIND” in good faith (as a seeker hoping to find help from others). My initial reaction was that here’s a well-meaning fellow wanting to share something helpful, but he probably doesn’t realize how he’s coming across. Nothing you said upset me; I’m old enough to take care of myself now, but as a gay boy I was abused in the Christian church, including being forced into aversion therapy when I was 17. The point is, there may be other guys on this site much younger than I am, with less time in recovery, who’ve also been abused in religious settings. If they stumble on your post, perhaps they’ll benefit from a countering view.


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#370458 - 09/18/11 04:38 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: Driftwood]
nltsaved Offline


Registered: 08/26/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Kc,Mo
my intent is always to inspire and encourage if taken any other way


i apologize
peace and blessing to you

i only use caps for the larger print not for yelling




Edited by nltsaved (09/18/11 04:50 PM)
_________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uYCAfpxrY
TRIGGER WARNING
Video of me telling my story
you are not alone never were
WRITTEN FORM
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339159#Post339159
Why i hate Religion but love Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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#371449 - 10/01/11 01:20 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: Ever-fixed Mark]
nltsaved Offline


Registered: 08/26/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Kc,Mo
I want to apologize to you for my reply to your post, i am sorry if it offended you and did not mean to come off as if i was telling people how or what they need to believe in.

I really meant it to be from a stand point of you can not find GOd intellectually because he is found spiritually. For anyone who might be searching for God .

i really felt when i wrote it that it was inspired for someone i did not no who it was for but i had a strong sense to right it just the way it came to me .

SO i apologize from the bottom of my heart i really did not mean to push my beliefs on anyone and it is out of my character to to attack anyone. I will take time out anytime i feel offended in anyway and not post angry.

Sorry

_________________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-uYCAfpxrY
TRIGGER WARNING
Video of me telling my story
you are not alone never were
WRITTEN FORM
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339159#Post339159
Why i hate Religion but love Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

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#371455 - 10/01/11 03:15 PM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: nltsaved]
tommyb Offline


Registered: 11/29/10
Posts: 362
Loc: American South
You all need to stop beating up on nltsaved right now.

Nltsaved has nothing to feel bad about. He can always edit the two posts he posted here. Posts timely posted are going to come across as more emotional than the ones carefully thought out as far as how they'll land to an audience's ears. There are times when we all are glad for the refreshing vigor of in-the-moment honesty, even if the speaker does feel overly-exposed afterward.


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#461950 - 03/03/14 06:05 AM Re: SEEK AND FIND [Re: nltsaved]
victor-victim Offline


Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 3362
Loc: O Kanada
powerful poem with some good advice.
thanks for the reminder and the reflection, nltsaved.
i always let my intellect interfere with my inspiration.
it is not easy to let go and trust god.
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