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#36912 - 06/04/03 03:53 PM Different help for all of us
Mike Church Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
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All of us here in the discussion board have some really big issues to deal with no matter who we are. And we spend a lot of time dealing with them here, with, our T’s And P’s and with those who love us outside this WOLF PACK . It is good that we can express yourselves freely and honestly with nothing but support in return. This also included the chat room for those who go there.

It is tough slogging and can be very emotional for us. We also have to realize that there is also a tremendous need to keep the body healthy in addition to the mind. Now Wuamei and others have helped in a big way with jokes and music and poetry. But there is other stuff too guys. And some of us do it in chat. I mean we don’t have to wear sack cloth and ashes and beat ourselves up all the time.

How about some just plain beautiful music, continue the jokes but also consider ways that you help the body and share it with us. It is important too in our overall health and also goes a long way to helping with the worth and esteem issues. My brother wolves we cannot ignore the body because it where our soul lives.

I am starting this thread for the benefit of all of us here so please do not think that I am aiming at anyone in particular. I know the benefits I have been reaping from belonging to a health club, inline skating and mountainbiking as well as camping and hiking.

I know that Wuamei gets a great deal of pleasure teaching water aerobics and that it also helps his body. And others of you do other suff. But guys you have to share this too ok.

God knows we need every tool we can lay our hands on. I know that you can all donate something here. What helps you, physically as well as dealing with the demons. I have said to others here that I had a big stuffed animal that was my demon slayer and slept with him all the time. I also like to read childrens books. They are simple yet full of a lot of life’s truths.

So come on fellow wolves lets get it up here for all of us. Tell us what you do so we can all benefit. If some of you would like to inline skate I have a lot of info I can share with you.

I know what I would like to know is how to imoport a picture and some of those neat graphics into a post. Remember I am 62 and not totally with it or here. Been accused of being out to lunch on a number of occasions

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#36913 - 06/04/03 04:09 PM Re: Different help for all of us
outis Offline
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OK, Mike, how's this?

I occasionally play "Calvinball" with my kids. Essentially, we take a ball of some sort (American football last weekend) and sometimes other equipment, and mutate a game to where we can play, 2 or 3 against one (guess who is the 1) until it's dark or we're tired.

Our baseball inspired games are always a lot of fun, as I never get a turn to bat and usually suffer a shut out as a result. \:\) But I do get exercise, chasing them around the yard. And I don't get tackled in those games nearly as much as in some others.

In a more subdued vein, I'm trying to learn to draw. I got a second hand copy of "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and started working through it about a month ago or so. Been away from it for a while, but I have noticed that I can even doodle a helluva lot better than I used to, since I learned/practiced some techniques from that book. I couldn't draw a straight line with a ruler 2 months ago!

My two cents.

Joe

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#36914 - 06/04/03 04:28 PM Re: Different help for all of us
Mike Church Offline
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Joe that is exactly what I mean. I am gonna make a big list of all the stuff and send it to everyone by private post. I mean that is great what you do with the kids. And you know something brother wolf you win each and every game in your heart and physically. What a great feeling it is to play with your children.

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#36915 - 06/04/03 05:44 PM Re: Different help for all of us
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I have a keyboard that I love to create music with (when I get enough free times these days). In fact I have a CD of my music on mp3.com.

I also write a lot and have put this together in a book format (home published type of thing).

In fact, I hope to get a couple copies of this and my CD's to the Male Survivor conference for the silent auction (just have to get them in the mail). So if you're going to the conference, make sure you look for these things.

I'm finding that Massage is very helpful for my body and dealing with every day stress of life. It helps me to become more acquainted with who I am and more accepting of myself.

I love to spend time in the Everglades, just where it is quiet and I love observing the Alligators, birds and all the other creatures.

I enjoy going to the beach and just walking there or getting my feet wet or jumping in the ocean. The power of the ocean is so refreshing to me.

I love to do Yoga when I can but right now, I'm so busy that it is hard to get enough time to do this.

I have a hammock that I enjoy sitting in and listening to the birds and watching the clouds drift along the sky.

I love just being with Jeff and just doing little things together or having fun together.

And of course there is always the time I get to spend with my cat (or as she would say, she gets to spend with me).

There is probably other stuff, but that is most of it.

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#36916 - 06/04/03 06:40 PM Re: Different help for all of us
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I agree with Mike, we have to maintain our hobbies and interests as we recover, or start something new.

We need to escape all the thinking we do, we must chill out sometimes.

I've been driving in competitive off road trials for about ten years, although I learnt to drive in a 4x4 when I was about 8 or 9 yo sat on my dads knee. So I always wanted to do extreme off roading.

Relaxing ? mmmm

I build my own 4x4 from scratch, all the designing, welding, machining etc. I spend hours getting burns all up my arms and a bad back from manhandling Range Rover axles. But I love it, I get a great sense of pride from the finished motor.

The driving is heart stopping at times. I look at a course and think "no f*****g chance!" But I still get in and drive. Occassionaly I win, sometimes I end up my roof. Whatever happens I feel stronger for overcoming any fear I had, and even though I'm not a very competitive person it's still good to compare the result with my close rivals.
Every time I fasten the safety harness I draw on reserves of self confidence I never believed I had.

I also help run the Club and edit the monthly newsletter ( which I should be doing right now !)
So people must trust and respect me ? And that's something we as survivors find hard to accept.

When I'm competing my whole weekend is spent preparing the 4x4, towing it on a long journey, competing, and driving home again.
And my SA doesn't enter my mind, well certainly not in any kind of intrusive way. I escape for a couple of days and join in with 'normal' people doing 'normal' things.

And I gain so much back.

I would recommend to anyone that they get involved with a Club of some de>
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#36917 - 06/04/03 06:45 PM Re: Different help for all of us
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I also like to read childrens books. They are simple yet full of a lot of life's truths.
Two of the best recovery books out there:

  • "Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day"

    "Green Eggs and Ham" :p


Victor

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#36918 - 06/04/03 10:48 PM Re: Different help for all of us
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Loc: Arizona, USA
Mike,
You've hit on a really cool topic. I find it very interesting to see another side of the people here. So I'll share mine as well, at least a couple.

Like Don, I love to go for walks in the nature. Fortunatly I live near a creek and almost every evening I take the two dogs for a walk around dusk. I find it so peaceful to hear the the water run, the birds making noise, and watching the sun dip behind the mountains. Oh, I almost forgot that the best part is just watching the dogs enjoy themselves. They're just simply happy to get out and jump in the water. Besides, they never let me forget to take them and I like that.

The other thing that I find very releasing is riding my scooter. I recently bought a little Vespa motor scooter and it has helped my mood so much. There's something about having the wind blow in your hair that makes you feel alive, albeit at a blazing 45 mph \:D . But it feels good. And while I've never considered myself a very attractive person, the comments I get while riding it really boosts my self-esteem (at least from the young ladies who make the comments :p ).

On a side note, my scooter is baby blue. Recently I was at the store to buy my neice a birthday gift. She loves Barbies so I figured some sort of Barbie paraphernalia would do. What did I see but a baby blue Barbie Vespa. I had to buy it, but I realized then that it's pretty hard to ride a baby blue Vespa and feel macho. The good thing is that I feel secure enough with myself to ride the same scooter as Barbie. And that's saying a lot for me ;\) .

Enjoy,
Mike

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#36919 - 06/05/03 12:27 AM Re: Different help for all of us
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the good thing is I feel secure enough in myself to ride the same color scooter as Barbie
Way to go, Sleepy!!!!!!

Secure enough!! That must feel really good! ;\)

Howard \:\)

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#36920 - 06/05/03 01:49 AM Re: Different help for all of us
rax Offline
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Registered: 12/02/00
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Loc: Newark, CA
Yay! a cool thread.

I went out jogging today evening(finally!).
The weather was beautiful(as always in california).

I was listening to music and since there were hardly any people around, I started singing as well. I didnt really care if anyone heard. I was in my own sweet world.

The special bonus to my jogging trip was that there were a pair of swings in the park. When I saw them, I ran and got on one.

Oh, it was so much fun! I was a child again. Swinging higher, and higher. The cool breeze over my face felt lovely. the sky, the trees, the fresh air...

My inner child is HAPPY!

love,
rax


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#36921 - 06/05/03 10:45 AM Re: Different help for all of us
Mike Church Offline
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Registered: 01/23/03
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Loc: Toronto, Canada
Hey guys this is really great. Keep em coming. We get to meet the other side of each other and it gives each and every one of us a pleasant feeling when we read the posts.

Like I said I am going to make a collection fo everyone once we have done posting

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