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#366272 - 07/20/11 09:12 AM Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer
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The article can be read here. I'm of the opinion that just because it's government doing the abusing does not make it justified.

This man was strip-searched, left naked and escorted past a female officer on the way to incarceration. This is uncalled for and is another form of sexual abuse. If it were civilians doing this against someone, there would be calls for justice. Why should it be any different when it's government perpetrating abuse?

The man sued to get the police video of his booking. There is a youtube video as well, where the man can be seen led to the female officer naked, but I did not include that here since it could be too triggering. Parts of the man are pixelated in the video, but it doesn't change the nature of how he was treated.

I hope he sues them til it hurts.

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#366277 - 07/20/11 12:13 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: FormerTexan]
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Nothing right about this whole "experience" - I agree with you that it was an abusive situation. People need fired and those remaining trained better.

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#366283 - 07/20/11 12:42 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: prisonerID]
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A friend of mine was picked up by the Toronto police last year during the G20 Summit and was subsequently stripped searched. When he vocalized his opposition to this they grabbed him while naked and ground his face into his underwear, which lay on the floor. He has since launched a civil action but it has gone nowhere despite it being more than a year already, due to lack of compliance on behalf of the police concerning proper disclosure of evidence. Needless to say the Toronto police have vast areas to improve upon if they honestly expect to be considered a professional police service in a modern democracy.

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#366284 - 07/20/11 01:08 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: jls]
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When I was traveling heavily (Andy remembers those days), I had nuclear-blast reactions to the TSA people. The very moment I would detect bad-attitudes or abusive behavior against me or any other passenger who was not male, I would blow-up with blistering diatribes, psycho-eyes and intimidating posturing. I was mercyless. By the grace of God, I was never arrested. But TSA knuckleheads are just that, and they back-down when faced with a mad-dog (learned it from Dad).

I've used the method on very few cops but I have used it. I truly, truly believe that people HAVE to be willing to do some heavy damage when being abused by any supposed authority. Around New England, there have been tons of incedents when people DIE from police abuse. One town away from mine, a man with his three young kids in the car was dragged out of the car and beated, then promptly died from the heart condition he explained to the numb-nuts before they killed him.

The children remain devistated. The cops are STILL on duty to this day. The victim of this Official Abuse-Murder was a well-liked member of the Christian community in my area.

Official abuse is horrific and growing quickly.

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#366314 - 07/20/11 11:18 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: Still]
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We've had similar issues here in Canada with the use of tasers. Several people have died from them yet police services across the country continually insist that they are safe and have been tested as so. However, the testing in question is done by the taser manufacturer and the police refuse to accept findings to the contrary by independent, outside authorities.

In a supposed defense of tasers police themselves say that they are completely safe to use on suspects but admit that complications (like cardiac arrest) are more likely to occur when employed against someone who is already physically agitated and/or high on drugs. From this logic I gather that tasers are only to be used on people who are calm, cool, collected and otherwise behaving normally? Forgive my sarcasm but in truth this has happened too.

On that note, access to “non-lethal” (their words, not mine) use of force has led to the liberal use of tasers in situations where other means would do. While I’m no bleeding heart when it comes to dealing with dangerous people I will say that use of force should only be one tool in a police officer’s belt. Knowing how to talk to people goes a long way too. JS


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#366510 - 07/24/11 07:25 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: jls]
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Police are unfortunately, mostly bullies. Its why they really want to be cops, so they can bully others around and claim to be a hero for it.

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#366518 - 07/24/11 09:37 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: catfish86]
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I won't say they are all bad. There are a few good ones out there. I know a good one on this site in fact, but more and more I see reports of them committing abuses against ordinary citizens.

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#366553 - 07/25/11 10:15 AM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: catfish86]
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It’s unfortunate you feel that way. I hope your experience with police doesn't reflect this. From my previous posts in this thread it’s obvious that I have no tolerance for abusive behaviour on behalf of police yet through my work I know a number of police officers, as well as people who want to become cops, and I can say that the majority are not what you describe. Sure there is a noticeable minority who are simply bullies (I say noticeable since getting noticed is what bullies want) but from what I've seen most of them treat the job as a form of community service and act with professionalism. For instance, a friend I work with wants to be a police officer. When I asked him what type of policing he's interested in doing he said protecting children from sex crimes, adding that standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves is what inspires him to become a police officer. This is as far as one can be from being a bully so I am thankful someone like him is committed to a career in policing.

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#367586 - 08/06/11 10:21 PM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: jls]
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New Orleans Police who shot unarmed young men at the time of Katrina have been convicted. I think there were 5 of them.

According to the news media I watched, there were numerous elements in the New Orleans PD who were corrupt.

When justice is served then everybody breathes a sigh of relief.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1573979464/





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#367589 - 08/07/11 12:45 AM Re: Toronto police strip man, lead past female officer [Re: pufferfish]
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Originally Posted By: pufferfish
New Orleans Police shot unarmed young men ...


Say it ain't so!!!! Say it AIN'T SO!!!!!! Never in NOLA!!!!!

Its that Union-Army-Led press telling these lies.



Edited by Robbie Brown (08/07/11 12:46 AM)
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