I think there are many here who would benefit from a forum like this. I hope that it comes about for all that need it.

Impressive response here gentlemen, please let's keep this going!

I was thinking, and speaking to a good man here in PM, that there needs to be outcomes for this type of forum, and I am asking for what others would want to see in this action.

The title I would offer is Sexual Abuse Collateral Dynamic's forum, encouraging those who have faced physical, emotional, verbal or religious abuse that presented before, during and after the sexual abuse to have a place where we can express ourselves completely.

I wonder too, if it should be limited access, hidden like some forums that have sensitive information or fragile personalities.

What would help you feel safe, express yourself and help MaleSurvivor become more encompassing for recovery of male sexual abuse?

Sam

Listen thankyou to Sasuva for encouraging me to lend a suggestion to support a post where we abused men need to share our physical abuse as much as SA.
When does this start?
I need to ask does anybody have a suggestion ( preferably by a staff moderater) whre perhaps i can pretty much just let my feelings out about my physical abuse. I never really shared this, on the net. It may me get past this need of my current " mommie". Please help me!

Sorry it took me a while to get back, I would support a forum
of this kind,
Max

There are many symptoms that we have in common as survivors.

But because we are all different and respond to things differently, there are innumerable differences in how abuse has affected us.

I have noticed a few things which might be pointed out:

Sexual abuse at a young age usually produces DIDNOS (Dissociative Identity Disorder Not Otherwise Specified). This is fairly common in guys here in MS. Guys with this don't "lose time". They don't lose a block of time in which a different personality takes over and goes out and buys toys or something.

If the sexual abuse is compounded with physical abuse, then it results in classical DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). The severity of this depends on the type of abuse and how long it goes on.

Allen

Thank you Sterling, Max, for joining your voice to ours.

Allen, this is very good information. I have DID, The physical abuse groomed me for the sexual abuse enabled the perp to completely control me. She demanded I conform, and I complied, because I knew I that if I did not, I would be destroyed. The physical abuse before and during the sexual abuse taught me 'real good to be seen and not heard.

I have been following DIDNOS, Allen, an interesting diagnosis. Not Otherwise Specified is a clarion call for the medical profession that specifics need to be followed up.

Having a place for collateral dynamics of sexual abuse in MaleSurvivor would help sufferers discuss these diagnosis. We would have a place for the uniqueness of our traumatic abuse that is not covered anywhere else as it is in here, at our home.
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Hey fellas?

Please consider adding this post address to your signature line, would you? Just remove the (*)

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Let's reach out in support and recovery of our trauma to as many as we can, those who suffer as well as those who would give us insight to our malady, and our eventual victory.

If there is anyone you know that has not yet added their support for our forum, please contact them, and encourage them to leave a note of support, offer advice, and appreciation for what MaleSurvivor, the Website Committee and the site staff are considering for us.

Thanks,
Sam

Thank you Sam,

I'm making this post because my experience shows how physical abuse can push a diagnosis over the line from DIDNOS into a more severe diagnosis of DID.

My memories of abuse surfaced when I was about 45 years old. I was officially diagnosed as DIDNOS because I didn't "lose time". As a young man I probably did "lose time" or shift into a different personality sometimes. I'm sure that in college I had a pretty heavy DID because I journalled for awhile. Every day I had different hand writing for a couple of weeks. It was difficult for me to remember what I had learned in the class the previous day.

It took me quite a while to figure all of this out. I profited from reading the book: A Fractured Mind, by Robert B. Oxnam because of some similarities with my own situation. He had a problem similar to mine with an alter named "Bobby".

This is a brief history of my abuse: I experienced early abuse at almost age 4 for about 6 months. This was csa (child sexual abuse) without physical abuse. This produced a heavy DIDNOS. I'm sure I didn't lose time as a young child. Then when I was 12 I experienced abuse with torture and physical stuff. This pushed the DIDNOS over the line into DID. When I "remembered" the abuse, I became aware I had an "alter personality" who was a pesky 12-years-old named "Buzzy". He remembered the abuse and thought he was the original me. At some point in the future I need to write about Buzzy. I also had a bunch (maybe 8) of lesser-developed alters from earlier child abuse. Sometimes I still think I sense someone else lurking in the background. I still have an excessive moodiness every day but I don't have any memory blocks.

After remembering abuse, I went into treatment for DIDNOS, and it was highly successful. But the 12-year-old Buzzy did not yield readily. I (or we) hung on for a number of years until EMDR provided a "fix". (EMDR is neither drug nor hypnotic in the usual sense).

Conclusion: The DIDNOS from csa yielded to treatment pretty easily, but the DID arising from physical abuse yielded only with difficulty. There was a difference.

Allen

Hi, my fraternal brothers,

Yes,it will be a very worthy forum.

My fraternal brother, Allen's post(above) pretty much sums it up for me.

To all of my brothers here in MS, i offer you all my compassion, understanding & love.

As I have walked in your shoes. Physical, emotional & mental abuse, it's a miracle that we made it this far in life. I honor you all.

Heal well my brothers, heal well.

"I will take that lost boys hand, and I will lead him from the depths of darkness, into the sunshine, forever into eternity." As he is me.

Pete..Irishmoose.

Indeed it is, Peter. I think we all need to take in the full scope of that more often and acknowledge ourselves for it.

Allen, Peter, Eddie, indeed, we are survivors, and we need to celebrate that fact.

Allen, interesting that physical/sexual abuse may cling to the survivor in ways and intensity that SA does not. Shame may not hold fast to a traumatic abuse survivor as terror does, although both destroy, abandon and reject the sufferer.

Peter, a miracle indeed, and for all our brothers, our fellow survivors, a hearty well done. We Have survived the Previous abuse, and it no longer is Happening to us. Thank you for adding your voice to the cause.

A celebration is in order, Eddie. A time to be recognized for the effort and victory that we have attained.

A time for a forum to draw out and specify our needs in the collateral dynamics of SA. A time to heal from the symptoms of S.A.C.D...