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#361076 - 04/29/11 10:49 PM Pigs being Pigs? or something else???
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I have hesitated to post this for a few days as i am trying to learn greater constraint. After a few days of review and thought...plus some PMs with well-trusted others, I've decided to publisise this.

***************HARSH LANGUAGE WARNING**************


I'm walking out of group therapy. I get into my car and BANG!...I got two under-cover cops on me, ordering me out of the car. I think, "what a great opportunity to end this shit" but I gotta get out of the car first. They stand back a good distance with hands on guns. Too far away to begin a struggle for the hardware or snap some necks. Now I'm feeling entrapped just like back then. They want to see my hands (JUST like the way they grabbed my handle bar of my bike once). I ask for probable cause (just like asking "WHY are you gonna do this to me").

Keep in mind I was thrown from my house 2 years ago, at tazzer point by complete surprise as I was taking a shower. Why? Cuz my wife's lawyer is a phyco-whore who ensured the sheriffs I would put up a deadly gun-fight.

So back to present-day...These cops say they "watched me walk into the building and they thought they saw a gun in my back waist-band." They CLAIM they thought the building was a day-care....a FUCKING DAY CARE!!! They made NO effort to enter the supposed DAY CARE to ensure the safety of the children!!!! I asked how long they've been in Manchester? YEARS of course. It was their fucking neighborhood to patrol. They were sitting accross the street from the building for an HOUR staring right at the sign that say what it IS - a Therapy Center!!! They thought I was carrying a gun into a fucking DAY CARE!!!!

They said they know I have a gun permit. I said yes...so since when has THAT been illegal? We just want to be sure you were'nt carrying a gun into a DAY CARE~!~

Fellow group member walks out of the building...I try to act "normal" so he does not see that I truly AM the world's worst freak. He glances at me with a puzzled look. I thought for a moment that he could take the one closer to him.

I challenged them to search me and the car. They said NO...we believe you. Yer suspecting I'm carrying a GUN INTO a DAY CARE and you don't wanna search for the FUCKING GUN??? They already knew who I am/was...that I am a permit carrier (but I never ever carry...being a fuck-tard and all)

I start dissing-out. In full fucking panic mode now. So what do I do? I freeze. How fucking brave of ME! I fucking freeze just when I'm finally thinking that THIS SHIT is not gonna happen to me anymore.

The pussydom remains alive and well for yet another day. More fucking thugs! That's what your planet needs, more fucking thugs!

I don't even know how I got home!! I truly don't even knnow what brought this attack on!!! FUCK THIS PLANET!!!




Edited by Robbie Brown (04/30/11 02:17 PM)
Edit Reason: for stupid comment
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#361109 - 04/30/11 02:03 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Still]
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WOW! , Fascinating Sorry you had to go through all that Robbie.

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#361120 - 04/30/11 05:37 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Sterling]
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PIGs are PIGs. Its not Pride Intelligence and Guts, it Power, Intimidation and Greed. They do not serve and protect as the propaganda says its Harass and Humiliate.

Police exist simply to enforce the “WORDS” of politicians that we call “LAWS”. You latterly have to lie, to get elected. Politicians have been proven to be liars and thieves on more than one occasion. Police officers exist to ENFORCE THE WORDS OF THIEVES AND LIERS. And if you think that they are there to serve and protect I don’t know propaganda you have been listening to.

In the small town where I grew up they exist to serve the mayor, and if you aren’t the mayors laky, you don’t get the job. I have reason to believe that my case was not fully investigated because the Mayors Daughter was also involved and likely abused… We can’t let that get out and damage his reputation. The Mayors Daughter, who used to be the Principal, who taught the magruff program.a program designed to teach and protect children from this. “ Again, Police officers exist to ENFORCE THE WORDS OF THIEVES AND LIERS. Why do think so many people hate them?

Don’t get me wrong, a few officers are in it for the right reasons. However they don’t last long. Those who desire to serve and protect can’t handle the fact that less than 1% of real crimes get prosecuted. As a matter of fact most those who are in it for the right reasons don’t finish classes where they learn the “Politicians Words” that we call Laws. They drop out and become Fire Fighters instead. That leaves mostly those who are there for the Power, Intimidation and Greed.


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#361124 - 04/30/11 06:17 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Napoleon]
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well i dont think its as bad and black/white as napoleon wants us to believe but..
those cops that stopped you werent the brightest ones in the world thats for sure...
sorry you had to go trough all that

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#361125 - 04/30/11 06:23 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Drop]
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Why would anyone want a job: 1 where most people hates them just for your profesion, 2 doesn't pay well, 3 you have high risk of getting killed, and 4 you have follow al list of rules (called laws) that are larger than a set of encyclopedias?

O, ya the job benefits. Power, Intimidation, and Greed.

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#361136 - 04/30/11 09:47 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Napoleon]
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I was a reserve cop for two years Napoleon. I left that work in the rear-view for exactly what you state here.

The last straw was when I called for a prisoner pick-up for a kid who was my age and drunk off his ass every day of his life. I only wanted to put him in protective custody for the night cuz he liked to hurt himself out in the wild.

The cruiser that showed-up was driven by officer X. Officer X was a sadistic (SADISTIC) mutha-fuckah. He TOO was drunk. He told me to put the kid in the front seat of the car. I questionsed that. he assured me of a certain beating if I did not comply. I sat him in the front seat and the cruiser took off before I could secure his seatbelt. I rushed to the station to meet them. I was not at all surprised when they did not show up for an additional 15 minutes. My protective custody kid was a bloody-beaten-mess. Officer X beat this kid while he was wering MY handcuffs! He was MY classmate. Officer X was a fucking psychotic bully. I left that career that night (went into puters from there).

NEVER EVER trust a cop.

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#361140 - 04/30/11 10:34 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Still]
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Like I said its not that there are not good cops, It just that they don't last long.

I have many friends who where cops, or in the police academy at some point. I have no friends that where cops more than 8 years. Only one lasted more than 4 you should here his stories. Most good cops last 2-4 years that is in line with you are saying. All left for similar reasons.

They joined to serve and protect, but that is not what a cops job is.

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#361144 - 04/30/11 11:02 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: Napoleon]
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I would hope they are not all as described here. A friend of mine on here is a cop. I wonder if he considers it a pretty thankless job.

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#361161 - 05/01/11 10:01 AM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: FormerTexan]
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On the flip side:
As an adult male survivor of sexual child abuse, I have been invited to the Police Academy on 4 occasions so far. My purpose? I go there as 'duty victim/survivor' so that they get to hear first hand what daily life has been like for us. I get to describe my 'normal' childhood - innocence terminated by a paedophile at aged 9.
These career detective officers are on an intensive 4 week course - learning the intricacies of investigating sexual offenses and child abuse.
I allow them to quiz me in detail about the grooming process; how the silence was maintained; what things they should look out for when entering an alleged perp's house.
I make the time to tell them that it is normal for guys to report sexual child abuse when they are in their 40s but when that guy is standing in front of them they need to respond with all the sensitivity as if it were a 10 year boy in front of them trying to tell them that they had just been raped but don't have the words to be able to describe it.
I make the point that over 40% of us are not able to hold down a full time job while we are going through our acute phase of recovery and that their response - done well - can help to get us back into the tax-paying workforce much quicker than done poorly.
I acknowledge that they have a difficult job; investigating crimes that are often decades old and that the chances of success at putting the perps away is low - but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. Why? Most perps carry on until they physically can't any more. If I am a victim, there are likely others. If 'he' is still alive then others are probably copping more of what had to go through.
Talking to them one on one afterwards, I again press home my point that it is a matter of personal choice for them (and each of their colleagues): they choose to be part of the solution or to remain part of the problem.
Why do I put myself through this? 'My' perp is dead; no earthly justice for me. So what can I do?
Each group I have spoken to has had about 25 officers. If just one of them from each group remembers how to respond to a first report of historical sexual child abuse just once in their career then - for me - it will have been worth it.
Robbie - don't get me wrong. From what you say, you were treated atrociously and their bad behaviour should be called to account. For me, I would like to use the different tack remembering the age old saying "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing".

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#361177 - 05/01/11 03:29 PM Re: Pigs being Pigs? or something else??? [Re: expom]
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Expom,

I commend you (very highly) on your work with the police. As I read your account, I shutter to think what judgements are going through their skulls and not being revealed (as detectives have great poker-faces).

Its interesting Expom. I've offered a lot to many "Christian" groups and churches. It is ultra clear around here (New England) that our clergy, pastors et al, have NO knowledge and/or ability to handle the discovery they stumble upon or disclosures brought to them. Its a very real problem here. The majority of the stories I hear around here is that the pastors excell at sweeping the news under the rug no matter who the offender is. Their councel to the victim and/or the parents: "The best thing you can do is try to forget it all and get on with your life."

Rather than allow my head to explode all over them and the town, I've offered very open (but limited to clergy only) discussions on more effective handling of these cases. I don't even get a reply to any emails. They all wanted to hear from me when I was flush with cash and worldly success. They all wanted to me to speak at men's groups. Not any more.

I've offered sit-downs and lecture to police groups here as well. As we say in business, "when the phone don't ring, you know its me."

Nothing is gonna change in the overall agregate. I'm seeing that clearly...regardless of my hopes and desires. Human nature cannot EVER E V E R be changed. There will always be target-children in social issolation and there will always be deviant, self-centerd fuck-heads. Can you tell I've lost all faith in humanity? In fact, the Holy Bible makes it clear, there is only one entity we can have faith in.

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