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#359006 - 04/08/11 12:24 PM I put my best foot forward...a dose of reality
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I am an excellent carpenter, my degree of quality in stain grade workmanship is masterful. I had a breakdown due to cognitive dissonance and dissociation, as well as an industrial accident about 5 years ago. I also have been in SA recovery for almost a year and a half from a traumatic event that demanded it, and of that time have been in part time work, and then a year of NO work.
I did not take care of myself physically, and at 42, I should have remained active.

So I applied for a job of Lead Carpenter in a small remodeling firm and immediately got hired on with everything I asked. I worked the first day for over 10 hours, and came home stiff and in a great deal of pain. I stretched out, and took a long hot shower and walked around a bit. Day two, I stretched in the morning, and worked over 10 hours again, came home, stretched out and took a hot shower, and walked around a bit. Day's three and four were getting better. I still did the routine, but man, my step got quicker, my focus improved, I remembered the training, started seeing the work in hours and processes, and was able to work almost a full day without pain.

Day Four I was fired.

I was busy throughout the day, and made progressive work, but I was not confident in my physical ability as well, it was my first working post recovery. I understand why I was fired, and I see the good I learned from it.

Now I am looking for general labor jobs, even after giving other carpentry companies a try, I did not fail, but I was not wildly successful.

A friend in the business told me that is was not about the quality, but rather about pride, or rather not wanting to conform to authorities' standard.

If this is so, I am in real trouble, because I am seriously low on funds and need work.
What has been your experience in these matters? I need to know.
What is a good resolution?
Thank you for your continued support brothers,
Sam

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#359013 - 04/08/11 02:13 PM Re: I put my best foot forward...a dose of reality [Re: SamV]
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Sam,

I experienced this in sales as well (on a huge scale). I was a highly-trained, expert legal specialist and was one of 12 elite government reps in the country for a company with a sales force of 500 people. Each and every fiscal year, there was radical, substantial change to the rules of the game. "now you report to this division," "now this guy (with NO experience or expertise) is your boss...and ah...did we mention the VP likes him cuz he was a very diligent telephone rep in the home office?" "You’re not making any base pay this year and now you don't have your expenses covered...don't argue about it." But I covered 5 states whereas a normal rep of the 500 crowd have a zip code...I need to get expenses.

My career in legal sales went on and on like this. Then all of a sudden the bosses were much younger than I. Some were young uppity females who were trying to prove something and had no clue about government sales cycles and had unreasonable expectations.

I ALWAYS took my service to the company and my customers extremely seriously. I had one state's attorney general demand that I supervise all his library purchases after I left the industry because "all the other reps treat us like shit and are only in this for the money."

So I was great at the game. I was expert and a force to reckon with. I won countless awards. The field however, is an ever-changing machine. I'm not saying that I am incapable of change, but I was not able to deal with the players changing. I needed to respect, trust and eventually care and like the managers. But all of a sudden, I could not. Since they were universally young and less experienced that me, they used tactics of management that a five-year-old would employ in the sandbox. Thus, I could not stand them and they could not stand me. This phenomena seems to be universal in all trades.

Expertise, experience and high talent do account for something...but when the younger crew has experienced less and different things, they respond as threatened humans once they realize who/what they supervise. If they are not threatened, they are unfamiliar with your experience and methods. If they are ego-driven, your time under their supervision can be pure hell.

For me, professional or workplace pressure is the worst. It can destroy me (and has). I know this is true because I eventually found proof that the lack of undue preasure had no bad outcomes. For example, I eventually found a high-end sales job selling to university presidents all over the country and was supervised by a VP with a PhD who was not threatened by anyone. That was THE BEST job on the planet! Its too bad PTSD took me out of the game for good.

But that was/is my experience with what I think you illustrated above.




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#359015 - 04/08/11 02:40 PM Re: I put my best foot forward...a dose of reality [Re: SamV]
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Originally Posted By: sasuva
What is a good resolution?


When I know I'm facing this situation, I ensure the manager that I am "very coachable."

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#359743 - 04/15/11 06:33 AM Re: I put my best foot forward...a dose of reality [Re: Still]
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Coachable,

My new favorite term, Rob, thank you.

I am finding that I need to be open and accepting with others secularly, or I do not work well with them.

I need to process this, and it may take a few more jobs to get that right, but they are out there, and so am I. Or, I may get it right the next hire, I hope so, I think I can, and I am building confidence in each new experience.

Sam

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