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#355765 - 03/07/11 01:12 AM
watermelon
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Registered: 05/26/09
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I recently got suicidally depressed and decided to check myself into a hospital. I'm better now, but in the hospital I attended a therapy group in which I was given a hand-out with this (Just the watermelon part): http://youcanheal.blogspot.com/2009/09/wally-amos-watermelon-credo.htmlWhen I got to the "N" I felt all this shame come up.. because it felt like it was telling me I was bad because I got raped. Yeah, maybe that's not what the idea was, but that's just how it came across to me. I stormed out of the group and complained. Do you think I was just being over-sensitive?
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#355775 - 03/07/11 07:06 AM
Re: watermelon
[Re: Jaifian]
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No I think that might upset several men here.
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#355778 - 03/07/11 07:42 AM
Re: watermelon
[Re: michael Joseph]
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Frankly, I’m impressed you made it to “N”. From the start this so called wisdom is over simplification in thought and wisdom. For it to suggest the there is a path to healing through “Polly Annie” thinking, not by doing the hard work required, is ridiculous even harmful. Plus in my book this is just another way of someone saying “Just get over it”.
Jaifian, I don’t believe you were being “over sensitive” I believe they were being “insensitive”.
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#355780 - 03/07/11 07:52 AM
Re: watermelon
[Re: earlybird]
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Registered: 06/16/10
Posts: 446
Loc: NJ
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I can see how this sort of 'optimism manifesto' would be something that triggered you, that "N" statement would have triggered me, too. The "if you believe it, you can achieve it" mantra has its place, but it can only take you so far. It's important to remember that you didn't "become" a victim in the transitive sense. None of us chose that for ourselves. You were victimized and that is one situation in life you don't have to feel responsible for.
You don't have to accept prepackaged advice from a handout, especially from a dude who is mostly just famous for making chocolate chip cookies--something anyone can do, really.
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#355832 - 03/07/11 05:57 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: CruxFidelis]
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I too found this a bit "too cute" for me in the presentation. Part of empowerment is being able to reject that which does not fit. Jaifian, you have the right to reject what does not fit your healing road. We all do.
Daryl
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#355833 - 03/07/11 05:58 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: CruxFidelis]
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I too found this a bit "too cute" for me in the presentation. Part of empowerment is being able to reject that which does not fit. Jaifian, you have the right to reject what does not fit your healing road. We all do.
Daryl
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#355934 - 03/08/11 02:15 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: pufferfish]
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Allen,
That is so sad but what else would sick fools like that do?
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#355936 - 03/08/11 02:30 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: prisonerID]
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Registered: 03/08/11
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Having been on the road to recovery, what if the perpertrator no longer is alive today? I can't help sometimes but wish otherwise.
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#355958 - 03/08/11 07:45 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: Mdum@ne]
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Mdum@ne,
Do you feel somehow cheated by your abuser/assailant not being alive? Mine were strangers so there will never be any type of face to face closure.
Daryl
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#355980 - 03/08/11 11:25 PM
Re: watermelon
[Re: Jaifian]
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Registered: 06/16/10
Posts: 446
Loc: NJ
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"self esteem bingo?"
That sounds positively soul crushing. Bingo is for children, old church ladies, and people who have the unfortunate fate of attending a baby shower.
I wish our mental healthcare system didn't make people put up with humiliating crap like that and actually treated adults like adults.
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#355995 - 03/09/11 07:08 AM
Re: watermelon
[Re: CruxFidelis]
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Registered: 02/17/08
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Loc: Oklahoma
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You just spit out a good deal of watermelon seeds!  Jaifian, maybe you could talk to whoever runs this group or even the director? Share with him how it feels to be treated -to such things. I hate that part myself - having to explain to experts how I feel concerning a lot of things. I just wish they knew more about ASA. Makes me want to chew nails and then spit hard enough to shoe a horse. But if we do not...who will? Hope the day is a better one for you. Daryl
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#356006 - 03/09/11 08:59 AM
Re: watermelon
[Re: Dewey]
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dan (((((((((dan))))))))))) well I care about you
that may be something you might want to hear your friend Michael joseph
you can have a hug or anything you need
Peace MJ
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