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#412680 - 10/10/12 08:05 AM IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
kb8715 Offline
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Registered: 07/16/10
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The pain men describe here is real. But so is recovery.

Often times the forum is a place for good men to vent their hurt, & I respect that. But equally we have to see we can undue what was horribly done.

Ask your Therapist as I have and they will tell you it comes down to the tenacity any of us have to overcome very true hurt.

It comes down to refusal to let your life be defined by some monster we met as a kid. We define who we are, not them.

I always say I am no better than anyone here because I am not. I realize the effects are pretty common to us all, but they are not the real us, the effects are illusions left behind.

Quiety out of sight there are men like me working with men like you to personally overcome abuse. There are men I met here at MS who astonish me with their guts determination compassion, support, and their true success.

I realize those real friends to me now will spend the rest of our lives cheering for each other and always pushing up further in recovery & in life.

Surviors of abuse become great students, brothers, incredible partners, uncles, spouses, parents, leaders, volunteers, teachers & friends.

I know it first hand by way of a few men I have met here who never post but every day inspire me to cherish what we have, and what we still will gain.

As a clergy abuse victim I pray each night for every survivor, and pray for the safety of kids everywhere. That's me.

It's gets better. It really does......

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"You can get far in life by pushing except through a door marked PULL...." Profile quote in my oldest son's senior year HS Yearbook.

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#412684 - 10/10/12 09:30 AM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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Wonderful statements--so true. You hit on so many points that are relevant to our healing-venting, supporting, cheering each other on and most importantly putting the monster in its place--not letting it define who we are or will become. I know my own healing journey has taught me many things about myself and what I want in life. I think I am no different than all survivors--striving for a life I now know I deserve--free to love, free to show emotions, free not to be ashamed or devalue who I am because of the abuse, free of letting others destroy and hurt me. It has also given me hope to grow and live the life I deserve as well as to show compassion for others--because I do not know their torment or past--they too may have been shattered or hurt in their lives so as to create their own facade to protect themselves. The value of human life is what life is all about. I see a change in myself and others have seen a happier and more caring person who is willing to help others-I always did in the past but now it is without reservation in my heart and mind instead of a way to compensate for feeling damaged or broken.

I also have learned never judge until you walk in someone's shoes. I have been judged--tried and convicted--without others understanding my life. I have read about the effects of childhood sexual abuse on the mind and brain--it helps me to understand the lost time and and gaps in memory and time. Amazing the research that is being undertaken on the hippocampus--a small part of the brain in the cortex region. It is believe to play an important role in memory--including why memories are repressed, trauma impact and why we dissociate during trauma and years after. It has been noted victims of childhood sexual abuse have smalled hippocampus and thus it differently impacts their memories and reactions to trauma and turmoil--triggering nightmares, flashbacks and dissociative states. It helps to eliminate the thoughts of I must be crazy why do I not remember everything in my life and where did the time go.That thought has haunted me for a lifetime. Now if people want to judge they should look at the research before passing judgment.

Hopefully some good comes from this horrible monster. Thank you for you words and insight.

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#412712 - 10/10/12 03:01 PM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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Registered: 04/24/12
Posts: 31
Loc: Canada
Like so many have already said thank you for this cause it makes that light at the end of that tunnel flicker even brighter.
I'm ready to make changes and the support here is amazing. If I can offer anything to anyone...I am here to return the support.
Bub

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#412902 - 10/12/12 10:26 AM IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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If we define ourselves first as survivors I guess that is what we are destined to be.

If we assume we can not heal I guess we will not.

If we think the world is entirely bad and uncaring I don't think we will see the good that is all around us.

I am a husband, a dad, a friend. I work by choice in a place where people are born, others are saved each day.

I struggle at times with the effect of abuse. Men here I trust kick my ass when it does. I do the same for them. It works.

I don't think of the 1 or 2 men who work recovery with me as survivors. They are true friends who happen to be survivors.

It gets better when you put it all in perspective and see this is one part of who we are. Don't let this one part of life consume you.

Push away the doubt and negativity. See that we are good men and we can heal. It's happening right here @ MS.
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#412906 - 10/12/12 11:35 AM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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Registered: 02/26/05
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Maybe it's all a matter of perspective and font color.
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Recovery is possible. Hang in there, brothers.

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#412990 - 10/13/12 08:07 AM IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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Not sure of the font color but I like it.

And no I don't think recovery is about perspective. I think it is about courage tenancity will guts determination that all of us can look inside and find.

It is about having a good T at times, but most of all I found it is about great support around us and here at MS.

Let it get better and keep healing.
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#413075 - 10/14/12 10:04 AM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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#413082 - 10/14/12 12:24 PM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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Registered: 02/26/05
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Jeff,

You are stronger than I, and stronger than most. I am profoundly grateful to call you a friend and a fellow survivor.

Just because you were the "top" for younger boys in those movies does *not* make you their abuser. Had you said no, you would have been replaced by another young "top" to do what they wanted, and you probably would have gotten worse than the cattleprod for your defiance.

You acted not out of free will, but out of survival. You were enslaved, and now you are free.

Cant
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#413098 - 10/14/12 04:55 PM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: cant_remember]
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Registered: 07/27/08
Posts: 2435
Loc: TEXAS
Hi, my brothers,

It really does get better.

There are no magic pills, not with any elixirs nor any kind of snake oil, to help.

Just plain guts, determination, faith in that innocent inner child within us.

It will cost us plenty. It will take it's emotional, mental & physical toll on us. Not to mention the monetary part.

We will at times of deep guilt & shame, which doesn't belong to us in any way shape of form, hurt so bad & want to give up the struggle. End our pain forever by thinking of harming ourselfs.

We will spend a lot of our emotional energy, doubting & second guessing ourselfs, about what we had to endure (I fell in love with my perp) & what we might have done to others. In some cases being tortured, drugged, forced into harming other young boys/girls for our abusers. They, the young boys/girls are like us they are also innocent victims.

Four years ago when all this came back into my conscious mind at the age of 69 1/2, I wished that I could have carried all of this to my grave.
It was too hard emotionally, mentally & physically on this old boy. I had thoughts of pulling the plug (the S word). Those voices & feelings were with me for 2 weeks. I was in deep clinical depression at that time. A voice came to me, and it was my inner child. Telling me big guy, make the most important 'phone call of your life. I did. I got help. I survived for another day.

That young boy named Pete, was disappointed in his big guy in a big way. He put it to me rather bluntly. Hey, big guy, I kept us alive for 69 1/2 years buried in the depths of your mind & soul in shame & guilt, etc.
Big guy, after just one year of you trying to come to terms with our youth, you thought it was too tough. Shame on you.
My 69 1/2 years vs your one year. Come on old boy, get with the program we have some more living to do.

It hasn't been an easy journey as you all very well know. Sure, i'm still second guessing myself, sure i'm still doubting myself.

I do come to these pages and learn how to work through some of it from my brothers here. We'll share our compassion, understanding, hope & love for one another. Giving each other hope & courage to go on.

Young Pete & big Pete both agree that it does get better eventually, especially a bit easier with your help. Please NEVER give up, NEVER.

Wishing my brothers here well on your journey together with me on this road to becoming a survivor. I didn't know me until now.

"I will take that lost boys hand, and I will lead him from the depths of darkness, into the sunshine, forever into eternity." As he is me.

Pete..Irishmoose.
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Working Boys' Home 10-14 yrs old, grades 5-8. 1949-1953
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A very humble alumni of the WOR Dahlonega, GA.
May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#413116 - 10/14/12 09:25 PM Re: IT DOES GET BETTER [Re: kb8715]
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