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#362214 - 05/14/11 11:06 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: didi]
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didi,

I don't think it's just a matter of eye muscle control. Or at least I think there is an even larger component of psychological fear.

I think that something in my brain was so terribly scared when I was tortured that I lost control of this and other vital functions. I think that when I use my eyes together in the proper way it brings about a huge PTSD reaction, or maybe better stated, a huge flashback to when I used my eyes better and before the abuse involving torture. This makes it extremely difficult to use my eyes together.

Allen




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#362223 - 05/14/11 11:58 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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Hi Allen,

Quote:
I don't think it's just a matter of eye muscle control. Or at least I think there is an even larger component of psychological fear.


I completely agree with you Allen.



Vision Therapy is difficult with the CSA, I commend you for facing your fear to try and
achieve Binocular Vision. It is down right scary to have to live through a flashback.




Quote:
Child Abuse Important to the
Ophthalmologist
Approx. 4-6% of abused children have ocular
findings
Any ocular injury can be the result of abuse
All forms of abuse may have ophthalmic
manifestations
Therefore, most ophthalmologists who care
for children will at some time care for an abused child


Quote:
Sexual Abuse and the Eye:
Covert sexual abuse has also been reported
as a cause of functional visual loss or other
nonorganic visual complaints
Although it is certainly NOT recommended
that every child with functional visual loss be
questioned about this possibility, more than
50% of children with FVL have identifiable stressors in their lives.

This was taken from:


The Ocular Findings in Child
Abuse
Robert W Enzenauer, MD, MPH, FAAO, FAAP, FACS
Assistant Professor of Pediatrics
University of Tennessee, Chattanooga
Introduced by Patricia Moody, MD
Le Bonheur Grand Rounds
11 January 2006
The Ocular Findings in
Child Abuse
Robert W. Enzenauer, MD, MPH, FAAO, FAAP, FACS
Assistant Professor of Pediatrics
Department of Ophthalmology
University of Tennessee
College of Medicine - Chattanooga


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Raising children who have been loaned to us for a brief moment outranks every other responsibility!

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#363107 - 05/27/11 11:12 AM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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Yesterday I watched the big-screen 3D movie Pirates of the Caribbean, On Stranger Tides.

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/disney/piratesofthecaribbeanonstrangertides/

It helps my eye problems at the stage I'm in and it's cheaper than vision therapy. But I have to explain this statement so that it's not misunderstood. I have had several years of vision therapy and I'm at the stage where a moving 3D target helps me to use what I've learned.

Allen




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#427624 - 03/09/13 11:33 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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Doctors use vision therapy to treat traumatic brain injury. I'm sure I experienced that.

Here it is. This is what I've been trying to say all along:

http://www.dvidshub.net/video/283344/doctors-use-vision-therapy-treat-tbi#.UTwMIFc0_cw

Puffer

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#433031 - 04/30/13 12:34 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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I just watched this again. It only affects a small fraction of csa survivors, but it's very important to that group. This issue has not been addressed in my geographic area.

It seems as though the natural healing is ongoing. Things like watching large-screen movies, especially 3-D movies helps a lot. Some types of computer use seem to help. But more than that I believe I had stereoptic or 3-D vision as a small child before abuse. My mother once told me that. She believes that my stereoptic vision got better and/or worse throughout childhood. It got worse after episodes of abuse. She was not able to make that connection. But then with the terribly severe abuse at age 12, I totally lost it.

Well, it seems to come back on it's own, but very slowly. It's almost like a little plant that will somehow find a way to grow through a crack in the pavement. If I had received proper and knowledgeable therapy for it I would likely have had a pretty quick remediation of the problem.

So yes, I have just a teeny-tiny bit of anger that I was told the wrong thing by some vision specialists who said I would never be able to regain 3-D vision.

Puffer


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#436610 - 06/02/13 06:16 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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My opinion is that LAD had fairly severe DID. How would I know? I've had that with similar symptoms. In some cases such as mine and LAD's, the dissociation is experienced in the eyes.

I have had to work very hard on this problem. I have made great progress. If I had seen this picture earlier, I might have been able to make recommendations to him.



Notice that the eyes are not fully focused together. The bug-eye part is because he is having to work very hard to pull his visual focus together. I know about this. I've had it and still do to some extent.

The head tilt seems to go with it. I'm just recovering from that, but I've had to do the work on it by myself.

It starts out with early abuse such as I had, and apparently which LAD had. It causes a dissociation within the visual tracking areas of the brain. In my case I was able to hold it together until I was abused and tortured at age 12 in the Boy Scouts. After that my visual problem became much more severe.

Puffer



Edited by pufferfish (07/19/13 12:22 AM)

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#436623 - 06/02/13 11:19 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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Hey Puffer,

I also have a DID diagnosis, but have never heard this about vision and eyes. Interesting and something to think about.
My thoughts are with LAD and all of our brothers who have gone too soon. CSA (and ASA)... I don't know, there are no words.

Peace

Benny

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#436624 - 06/02/13 11:22 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: bey]
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Benny

This eye problem is definitely NOT in all cases of DID. It seems to be the exception.

Thank you for your message.

Puffer (Allen)

P.S. I'M collecting photos of guys with strabismus who seemed to have csa as the causitive factor, or at least a chief causitive factor. I'm not ready to post this information yet.



Edited by pufferfish (06/03/13 12:19 AM)

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#436723 - 06/03/13 07:06 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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Hi, my fraternal brothers.

Interesting subject.

I've always had eye problems as a boy. But, being a premature baby me & my twin sister made it to 28 weeks. She died at birth.

I as a young boy was diagnosed with Amblyopia. Amblyopia Strabismic. Refractive error-Myopia.Strabismus-Non-Paralytic.Hypertropia Constant Left Eye. Astigmatism, etc.
But way back in 1939 they put me in an incubator with 100% oxygen.
Thankfully they were more interested in trying to save my life than anything else. How long i was in one i never knew.
I always was seeing double images, i remember them to this day as when i was being punished & sent to my room I'd be laying on my bed playing with a match box car & in doing so i always had seen two images & they were not lined up. If i closed one eye looking at the car & then switched eyes the image would be in a different position.
I don't ever remember having any sort of eye exams prior to my entering the orphanage/Home. Most likely because we were a welfare family and only certain things were performed.
My feelings about that was because my "mom" wasn't interested in her unwanted kid & didn't do anything for him. I have no pictures of me as a boy wearing eyeglasses prior to entering that orphanage/Home.

Now, i was being emotionally, mentally, physically & sexually abused by "mom" starting at 5 years old & abated somewhat at the age of 10 as i went into an orphanage/Home for 9 months & was fresh meat during the summer school holidays and that lasted for 4 years. 10-14 years old.

I'm sure that the strabismus & other associated things mentioned were a result of the abuse.

There was an Air Force Opthamologist that said to me long after i had retired from active duty that his opinion is that being in that 100% oxygen incubator for an undetermined time was the cause of my eye problems. Back then he told me they didn't know much about the effects of 100% oxygen on a premature boy (meaning me.)
In all my field vision tests related to glaucoma I was never able to pass the test with my left eye, they just gave up on me and concentrated on my right eye.

Who knows? Thankfully I've managed to survive for 74 years. These past four have been the toughest in my life, since all this CSA stuff came to the surface.

Allen, where can i send you some pictures of me? Any special angle your face has to be? Please let me know how & where to.

Wishing all my brothers well in healing.

"I will take that lost boys hand, and i will lead him from the depths of darkness, into the sunshine, forever into eternity." As he is me.

Pete..irishmoose.


Edited by petercorbett (06/04/13 07:48 PM)
Edit Reason: left our a few words.
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Working Boys' Home 10-14 yrs old, grades 5-8. 1949-1953
____________________________________________________________
A very humble alumni of the WOR Dahlonega, GA.
May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#455127 - 11/26/13 01:27 PM Re: Eye problems (strabismus) related to CSA [Re: petercorbett]
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This visual problem is talked about in some of the books I have been reading on creating MK-Ultra or Monarch personalities in kids. That's what I believe happened to me and to LAD (in the previous post). (And to many others not discussed here). This stuff may seem hard to believe and I can understand this. I wouldn't believe it myself if I hadn't been through it.

This is the book which talks about visual problems arising from MK-Ultra programming in children:

Trance: Formation of America [Paperback]
Cathy O'Brien (Author), Mark Phillips (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Trance-Formation-America-Cathy-OBrien/dp/0966016548/

Cathy O'Brien even talks about them having inserted a wire into one of her eyes as an experimental antenna to transmit her visual field. Now I wonder if that procedure might have been tried on me because I had 20/20 vision in both eyes as a young child. Then after I was experimented on (I have called it the "tonsillectomy" because that's what I was told). The vision in my right eye degraded to 20/400.* It has never improved from that. I don't remember them doing this to me but I think I had been anesthetized. Other things were done but not reported in this post.

This matter is reported in this book:

How The Illuminati Create An Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave. Paperback. I don't recommend that everybody read this right off. It can be pretty disturbing.

Also it should be added that strabismus can apparently be caused or be made much worse simply by bad treatment (such as sexual abuse) of a child. This is apparently what happened with Pete (Moose) in the previous post. It has happened to many others.


Puffer

* This makes sense from the standpoint of how the eye works. When Cathy O'Brien had the wire inserted, some fluid leaked out. That would make the eyeball smaller. That in turn would cast the visual image behind the (virtual) retina and make it out of focus, or near-sighted. That's what could have happened to me. If fluid leaked out then the eyeball became smaller and hence near-sighted. My vision still is 20/400.






Edited by pufferfish (11/26/13 04:25 PM)

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