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#349082 - 12/26/10 01:18 PM "1 in 6" the whole picture?
Lesser1 Offline
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After a little research to find ratios which could finally included those of us who are not CSA, I found the 1 in 6 ratio is not only exclusive, it really doesn't paint the whole picture.

For those interested:

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims

http://www.pascalegousseland.com/work/s13.htm

http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats2.htm



Edited by Lesser1 (12/26/10 01:23 PM)

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#349100 - 12/26/10 06:12 PM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: Lesser1]
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Lesser1,

Thank you for taking the time to research and then post these statistics. Of course one always wonders about the unreported attacks on men. I denied and lied for many months though the detectives knew I was not telling all that had happened. It was seven months later when I would amend the report at the urging of my psychiatrist. It was not easy but the investigator was very patient with me throughout that process.


Daryl

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#349218 - 12/28/10 10:29 PM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: prisonerID]
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I believe the numbers are higher than anyone can begin to realize. It's like every year another man confides in me that they were CSA or ASA victims.
Daryl, thank you for all you do. I pray that you will find peace, and healing.

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#350115 - 01/08/11 07:54 AM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: Guss]
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Thanks for the links Lesser1, there was some very insightful and helpful information. Earl

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#350120 - 01/08/11 11:54 AM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: earlybird]
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There has been nowhere near enough research to produce a clear picture of the incidence of male rape, and even less it seems for adult males. Here's a sampling of what I was able to find.

http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361
http://thehathorlegacy.com/rape-statistics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/mal...on-1428974.html
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2007/12/15/us-federal-statistics-show-widespread-prison-rape
http://renwl.org/news/dadt-news/men-raping-men-in-us-military-catapults-past-assaults-on-women

When there is enough data once can extrapolate the likely incidence of male adult rape from current reports plus the unreported rate. One example of this was one counsellor who said that of the 70 men he personally counseled in a year, only three had reported it. Now it seems that male rape stats in the military have powered past female rape.

Male rape is still a largely invisible epidemic.

-efm

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#350145 - 01/08/11 07:21 PM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: Ever-fixed Mark]
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efm,

Thank you for taking the time to find and post this information. My take? As a whole the therapeutic community has little interest in adult male sexual assault. They seem as clueless as the general public about it and do not demonstrate any real interest in changing that.

Now let's spend some big bucks on the mating cycle of the dung beetle. That ought to provide so much good for so many people.


Daryl

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#350159 - 01/09/11 01:05 AM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: Ever-fixed Mark]
Lesser1 Offline
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EFM,

Thank you for posting this. The lack of material for this flavor of the burden we share is disheartening. The statement "you are not alone" is repeated often, but your action of posting this means much more to me than hearing that 'well meaning' canned response.

Thank you,
Les



Edited by Lesser1 (01/09/11 01:05 AM)

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#350160 - 01/09/11 01:12 AM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: prisonerID]
WriterKeith Offline
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Registered: 12/30/10
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Loc: southern California
What can we do? How can we bring this subject to the place where it is taken seriously?

I was appalled when popular youtube comedian, Allen Buckle, known as "FLuffetalks," posted a video laughing and mocking a news item about a man being raped by a woman. The public comments joining in his mockery of the victim far outweighed those with any compassion. Those of us who protested the video were "shouted down" and demeaned by others leaving comments.

It falls on us to speak out on behalf of those men who have experienced this terrible crime against humanity. Before we can, those who have survived such an assault must educate those of us who have not experienced this particular type of personal violation.



Edited by WriterKeith (01/09/11 01:12 AM)
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#350491 - 01/12/11 02:00 PM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: WriterKeith]
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In all these quoted statistics, I find it so harmful and misleading to not acknowledge the uncertainties. There's what we think is true, what we know is true, and what we can prove is true. Very different things. There's a whole lot we don't "know", and very little we can prove. Yet, lots of statistics get thrown around, often chosen with an agenda.

We deserve better. YOU deserve better.

On prison rape and sexual violence: www.justdetention.org has links to a lot of studies but it's weird how there is huge variations from less than 1% to over 20% victimized. On rates, We can prove nothing except it does happen. We "know" nothing and think about it almost not at all. That's 2.4 million people, 90% men, 70% non-white, so a huge racial bias.

I've read quite a lot about ASA of males, and I don't believe any statistics have much credibility. So let's be honest about it. We are simply guessing. We don't know a thing. Sad and upsetting to me.

My opinions I guess.

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#353682 - 02/14/11 08:35 PM Re: "1 in 6" the whole picture? [Re: LandOfShadow]
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