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#34245 - 03/31/05 07:43 PM Confronting ONE of my abusers
Archnut Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 343
Loc: United Kingdom
Yesterday I did something that I thought I would never acheive, I confonted one Jonathan King.

This putrid peice of perversion abused me during the early seventies as did friends of his.

King was released on parole this Tuesday just gone 03/29 and what a performance we were given on his release, one report of the many can be read here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...xportaltop.html

A second can be read here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005141835,00.html

These are only two of the reports it was blanket coverage through all media outlets here in the UK. He was a respected pop music impressario but now he is a convicted child abuser.

Having been in close contact and interviewed by the press and differing Radio Stations. I was the asked by The Sun newspaper if I would like to confront him if it could be arranged. Over the last eight months I have looked regularly at the advice on this site for Confronting Your Abuser and I have to say it worked a treat.

I managed somehow to remain polite, focused and determined to face the man that buggered me when I was fifteen in 1971. I was however supported by two photographers and three big hitting journalists that fired questions at him, he had nowhere to run, he was like a rabbit caught in headlights. I said what I wanted to say adding that he is a great danger to any teenage boy walking the planet today and with that it was done, he looked shit scared gone was the bravado of his release and gone also his trademark lop sided grin he showed on being released halfway through his seven year sentance and our Parole Board have got the cheek to say that King is no longer a danger. What complete arseholes.

The Suns website article reports this event that took place at The Hilton Hotel in Shepheards Bush west London on Wednesday. It can be read here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005142435,00.html

The only other thing I can say is this. The confontation was the most massive feeling of empowerment I have ever felt and I susupect it was that feeling that drove me home to make my point without loosing the plot, the point I never got to make within a court of law, and boy does it feel good.

So I have to thank you all for supporting me through my time here, I think its about time I joined. One member of MS needs a special mention and that is Lloydy who lives twenty minutes away from me, when I was in crisis ten days ago he called and talked me down, unfortunately he wasnt quick enough to stop me self harming for the first time in years, but it had to be done as I was so angry that I came really close to hitting the vodka again and I really didnt want to go down that road again after being ten years sober and (relatively) clean.

I took the power back that King had over me for thirty five years and my closing comment to him was something like "Now your nightmare begins".

Oh yes King has a second home in NYC hopefully he wont return but if he does kick up a right stink and save your teenage boys.

I can now also use my proper name at long last.

Here for you guys

Kirk aka Archnut


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#34246 - 03/31/05 08:21 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
reality2k4 Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 6838
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Kirk,

I am glad you had the courage to go through with the confrontation, it is the only footage that I would want to see of this sick pervert.

I could not watch the news because of this, I did not want to see that ugly f**k, grinning and claiming he is innocent.

I wonder just how many, did not come forward, and have kept it silent for their own reasons?

He is still a danger, and he always will be, because he is in so much denial of the harm that he can do with boys in this age range.

It wont be too long before he is back to his old tricks, as he will have all the same contacts, that he always had.

A seven year sentence, then serving less than three, is an insult to those kids, they got life, and had their lives taken away, for being totally innocent, the law stinks, and I hope that there is no technicality, because technically to me, he should be locked up for life, with his cronies.

It is true that the evilest of these perverts, are the very ones who deny that it is wrong to do these things to kids, and believe that they are somehow doing good.

I am glad you had your day, and you did not damage yourself, with a bit of luck he will be disgraced, everywhere he goes, and shamed into submission.

I dont want to see the ugly bastard again, or I will smash the TV,

I wish you better times,

ste

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#34247 - 04/01/05 10:50 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
RICK57 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/03
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Kirk - well proud of you. I only posted my real name once here...it's Eric!

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#34248 - 04/01/05 11:04 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
RICK57 Offline
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Kirk - just to add - I actually saw the smarmy **** on television.

How he can be released after only serving half a sentence I do not know. Everyone in the rest of the world, you may not know that JK justified his actions because he said that 'they were old enough to make a mature decision'. He did not show one drop of remorse - they should serve a full sentence anyway, but if they cannot even show remorse, does that mean that any sentence for any crime is only going to be half of what it should be.

We have a general election coming up very shortly - I will vote for anyone that jails these pervs and makes them serve the full sentence (I would even contribute to a political party that would lock them up & throw away the key...*unless it was something like the BNP).

I also saw some grotesque perv (friend of JK) justifying the events & stating that JK should never have been jailed.

*As a 'pop mogul' he also made over 2m whilst in jail! Give it to the victims or relevant charities (Child Line / MIND). At least make him pay for his board and keep whilst he is in there.

Kirk - you have supported me when I need it....if you need payback, it's here..Eric

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#34249 - 04/02/05 02:00 AM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
Dan01 Offline
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Registered: 03/21/02
Posts: 18
Loc: S. California
Kirk, I am so sorry for what happend to you. I just read the arcticle on this sick pervert that abused you. The lack of remorse and totaly depraved thinking astonishes me still. The bastard that abused me horribley from age 4-12 has never admitted to doing harm. I confronted him at the age of 15, The pain and anger were unbarable to me. I told him he had commited a crime against me. The bastard procceded to tell me "I dont know what the big deal is" why do you make such a fuss" He said he was doing me a favor,because he was educating me and after all he did these things because he loved me". Here I was writhing in paing and wanting to die, and he thought he had done me some sort of favor!!! These are some sick individuals. I was so enraged and in shock at his lack of humanity and remorse, I told him he wouldnt get away with it. A couple of years later he molested my 5yr old niece and that was it We had him arrested and I testified against him in court he was convicted and did 3 1/2 years in prison, when he got out We sued him in civil court and demanded compensation, he owned a home and he had to sell it and pay me damages. I also requested he be deported, since he was not a citizen and that was also granted. That was very gratifing to me and very healing. I was able to make him pay. But he still never appologized all along he said it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be, that is mind bogling. To me, I am 35 and am still dealing with the after affects, I have post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorders and other problems that I will have to suffer with. These monsters need to get the message that SA is a destroyer of children and they must be dealt with severe measures. I don't know what the laws are like in England but I pray that you have civil legal recorse so he doesn't get to flaunt in the faces of his victims the 2 million pounds he so proudly boasts of.
Best regards, Dan


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#34250 - 04/03/05 03:34 AM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
Rustam Offline
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Registered: 10/27/04
Posts: 470
Loc: UK
Kirk,

Great you found the strength to confront him. I saw lots of his ugly mug on the TV this week and felt such anger that he was let out on parole. I love the image of him looking like a rabbit in the headlights and not being so sickeningly smug. Good for you. I am sorry his release was so painful for you and glad you had Lloydy to support you. I used to self-harm myself and it still feels tempting when things are rough. Glad you managed to stay sober; great work all round.

Rustam.


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#34251 - 04/03/05 05:58 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
SteveB Offline
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Registered: 04/01/05
Posts: 6
Loc: Swindon, Wiltshire
Well done Kirk!

Bet it felt good, however scary, to finally face him and tell the truth, even though he tried to deny it all, which is typical of abusers!

I lost your phone number, otherwise I would have called on that night to make sure you were ok, but damn good to see you fighting back and making some noise


Stay safe mate

Steve Survivors Swindon


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#34252 - 04/03/05 08:11 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
RICK57 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 1611
Loc: ENGLAND
Kirk & everyone else -

I have just read an article in the Sunday Mirror (at my Sisters) written by a columnist called 'Stotty'. The article 'King of Fools' seems to imply that the only think jonathon king did wrong, was to mouth off on his release.

The article can be found at http://WWW.sundaymirror.co.uk/stotty/

I have sent an e-mail to the Sunday Mirror complaining about the article & requesting an apology for the thousands of victims of these perverts. Maybe a few more of you could do the same.

I would have added the full article here, but am not sure if that is allowed as I could be breaching copyright. If it is OK to add the article here, someone please let me know & I will do.

Best wishes ...Rik

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#34253 - 04/03/05 08:31 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
Archnut Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 343
Loc: United Kingdom
Hi Rik and thanks.

I have just sent him one as well it reads:

Dear Mr.Stott

I read your article featured in the latest edition of the Sunday Mirror where you made the claim that "it is easy for young men to claim some 20 to 30 years later their lives were blighted by King".

Sir. Nothing is easy for a survivor of Childhood Sexual Abuse (CSA) you are so wrong and appear to be totally ignorant of the effects that CSA can have on the survivor of such acts. I am no longer a young man as I am nearing fifty and for most of my adult life I was trapped in a nightmare world of chronic alcoholism and drug addiction.

However I do not balme my abusers (King, Randall and Chris denning + 1) for my addictions as there are a great many alcoholics running through the male line of my family. I have looked at the evidence of a genetic flaw in my make up through my interests in Archaeology, forensics and genetics and I have to say that whatever happened to me in early life I would have become alcoholic regardless but I think it is safe to say that my abuse did not cause my addictions but I think you would agree that the abuse did not help.

From the age of sixteen at least I was a chronic alcoholic up untill 1994 after spending yet more time in a local psychiatric unit after a third suicide attempt where I was prescribed Electro Convulsive Therapy as my consultant thought I was suffering from clinical depression, it was but unbeknown to me or him was my hidden Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and that would not reveal itself in full untill Gary Glitter was arrested for downloading child porn. Why Glitter?

When I heard of Glitters arrest two things sprang into my mind, firstly the Bell record label and secondly possibly the most prolific child abuser the UK has ever seen the ex Radio One deejay Chris Denning (who is currently living in exile in Slovakia after being deprted from the Czech republic). I was two months into my archaeology degree at Birmingham university as a mature student (I was expelled from school at the time I was being actively and regularly abused by Chris Denning by the end of my three year course I was a physical and mental wreck becuase of the paedophilia that was nearing saturation point in the media, it was also the time of the North Wales Childrens Home Scandal and the concluding Waterhouse Report. I suffered a breakdown just before sitting my final year exams because I had read of a report in The Guardianm of Dennings arrest for abusing and filming boys as young as ten, he was sentanced to three years imprisonment.

Also metioned within that report was assistance from the National Criminal Intelligence Service in securing Dennings arrest and conviction. Beacuse of my breakdown i recieved my agerotat BA In Arcaheology in 2001. Itwas then that I decided to disclose all to the police via NCIS, it was either that, go insane or try to commit suicide for the fourth time, it was easy for me to come forward, at that time, I had no choice.

Mr. Stott if you really think it is easy for survivors of Childhood Sexual Abuse to come forward you are seriously deluded and you need psychiatric help, no doubt you will be able to afford that support whereas the survivors of CSA have no such support system to speak of. It is usually a crisis that brings about disclosure and im pretty sure that is the case for 99.9% of those who do disclose a number of years or decades after the event. But then again you may have been well and truely groomed by King like The Guardians Jon Ronson or The Observers Lynn Barber, you are all adults what chance did a homeless fifteen year old boy have?

I am willing to open a dialouge with you but I expect no reply, but it would be nice to recieve one none the less. I have shown you courtesy I hope you will show the same courtesy to email me a reply or feel free to telephone me on ***** ******. Thanks for your time

I await you reply

Kirk McIntyre

Stotts email address at The Sunday mirror is:

richard.stott@mgn.co.uk


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#34254 - 04/03/05 09:35 PM Re: Confronting ONE of my abusers
reality2k4 Offline
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I just sent this on as well, what a Monday morning feeling he will have!

I would like to profoundly complain about the columnist richard stott and his article about jonathan king. Kings' re-entry into the limelight, more like his road to HELL.

Quote "Which is a pity, because there is a real debate to be had over his case... the reliability of evidence decades after the offence and the imposition of the morality of one age on another. In the 1960s and 70s pop stars having sex with underage groupies was commonplace."

In this, he is trying to say it was morally right to abuse under age kids because it was done in the 60's. I was 10yo when I was abused by a savage, but you know what, you never forget it, and it is always fresh in my mind.

Quote "It is easy and convenient for young men to claim some 20 to 30 years later that their lives were blighted by King. Most of his victims were plied with presents and, on their own admission, kept coming back and never complained."

Underage sex causes so many life long problems, and King took advantage of underaged kids, and then tried to blame it on them for wanting it.
Even if they did come back, was it not extremely evil for him to have perverted their lives in this hideous way?

Quote "There is no doubt he was guilty, but so were scores of others in those heady, sweaty, less judgmental times."

"Seven years was a vicious sentence when compared with Sarah Payne's killer Roy Whiting who only received four years for an earlier attack on an eight-year-old girl in which he kidnapped and threatened her with a knife and rope before indecently assaulting her."

Yes, there were scores of others, but it does not single him out as being innocent of hideous crimes against these innocent kids. How many did not come forward? How many took their own lives? Because that is what child abuse does.

Even a life sentence will never address the pain and anguish of a survivor of abuse, the scars are for life, and all of these kids have had a life sentence thrust on them from an evil pervert.

He has no right to compare another sentence with the one King got, as he clearly does not know the facts.

Quote "I suspect the Parole Board shared this view because King was released at the first opportunity, even though he has shown no remorse - usually the first demand if parole is to be granted."

Get your facts right stotty, I did. His parole officer speaking on radio 2
said he is an evil man, who has never shown an ounce of remorse over what he has done.
She also said that she could not understand how the parole board could ever consider parole under these circumstances.

Quote "By his hopelessly over-the- top act outside prison, King insured he would not only bring down a wholly predictable torrent of abuse on his head, but also that there would be no chance of any rational argument about the real concerns his case raises."

This I will agree with, he has no rational thought in him, and he has no treatment to stop him abusing again, and he will, at the earliest opportunity.

Boyhood child abuse is seriously under reported to authorities, and all these kids carry the silence throughout their sorry lives. Nobody, but nobody has the right to take away a kids childhood for their own perverse needs.

To take it away, and then blame the kid, is indeed just what these perverts do, and it can keep the silence going, because they will tell the kid, that nobody will believe them.

There is a serious lack of therapists to treat survivors of boyhood abuse in this country, and most other countries, and it is seriously understudied, because of the secrecy the kids hold.

Time has shown, that a serial child abuser, can get through hundreds of boys, before ever being detected, and it causes a huge strain on society, as many of these boys will be anti social and become criminals, or alcoholics, or even worse, end up needing psychiatric counselling, which I have to undergo.

On the good side however, the limited research suggests that 80% of abused boys' never go on to abuse others, and instead become very protective of children.

I demand an apology from this mr stott, as he has not got his journalism right, and he puts the wrong thoughts in the minds of your readers, by saying that it was right and proper for king to have done these things to the innocent.

I would also like you to print an article with links to male survivor resources in your website.

I can furnish you with all the material that you need on this topic,

and further more, it will not cost a penny, but it would make people aware of just how big a problem this is, not only for the abused boy, but for all the families who have to live through this nightmare.

I look forward to your reply,

steve

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