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#34105 - 06/08/02 10:09 PM What's the AAPC..??
Anonymous
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Did a websearch for NOMSV. Found the info and
'Catholic Charities of the Arch Diocese of New York' under NOMSV's board of directors. That's interesting.


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#34106 - 06/12/02 05:20 AM Re: What's the AAPC..??
getteddie Offline
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Registered: 07/19/01
Posts: 226
Loc: Cub Hill, Md
Hi Tinfoil,
Glade to see that you are still out there looking for the bad guys...I have seen and heard a lot of therapist...and a few of the butt heads here really sound like therapist!!!!! I've been testing them with post to see if they react to them like therapist and they do!!!!!! Therapist and Priest running and acting as members of Nomsv...far out but very likely. Too bad suvivors can't post to each other with out hearing this crap. How many therapist have been close friends to DID people to know if they really come together...DID's hate therapist and priest...at least many of their parts do! Why did the "Bear" run off...he had his parts together...or did he????? Or by being a mod. did he find out about the priests??????? I say MO-FO!....Billy is right...Look Out!!!!! Tinfoil with all the shit that you know about suvivor sites...why don't you put one together that is screened and safe...or you just like playing around and think that nothing will work????...don't blame you and thank's for the heads out on this!!!

Eddie


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#34107 - 06/12/02 05:33 AM Re: What's the AAPC..??
getteddie Offline
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Registered: 07/19/01
Posts: 226
Loc: Cub Hill, Md
I have also noticed them on the chat..I have been pointed out the rules by these people more the a few times....Now if anyone knows of a better site please E-mail me the address so big brother doesn't see it...but I guess that he already has...or is it big sister...who knows????

Eddie


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#34108 - 06/12/02 08:26 AM Re: What's the AAPC..??
Richard Gartner, PhD Offline
Past President
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Registered: 09/20/00
Posts: 404
Loc: New York, NY, USA
There are bios of all Board members on this site (www.nomsv.org/board_of_directors.htm). I do not see any mention of the Archdiocese of New York there. By the way, NOMSV's by-laws state that at least half of the Board of Directors must themselves be male survivors.

I deplore what has been going on in the Church, and have done so publicly. However, while there never has been a priest on the Board, there certainly are priests out there who have fought for victims of sexual abuse and to my knowledge are not themselves predators. One or two have presented at NOMSV conferences.

Richard Gartner
NOMSV President

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www.richardgartner.com

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#34109 - 06/12/02 06:28 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
Richard Gartner, PhD Offline
Past President
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Registered: 09/20/00
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Loc: New York, NY, USA
Read the bios if you are interested in Board members' backgrounds. They are elected in open elections by NOMSV members. If you are only interested in trashing people, feel free as long as you are not abusive. But don't expect a further response from me.

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www.richardgartner.com

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#34110 - 06/12/02 08:24 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
Just Call me J Offline
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Registered: 07/14/01
Posts: 204
Loc: Inland Empire, California
Matt,

I really think you're overreacting, both to what Richard has said, and to the idea that some Catholic priests have presented at NOMSV functions. You've been burned here before, so I can see where your anger comes from, but I honestly think that it is misdirected.

As a member of the Board, Richard is in a position where he must be professional and where the organization he represents (NOMSV) will be judged, based upon his answers.

Therefore, don't expect him to "shoot the shit" or talk off the cuff, the way that you and I do here. He is speaking for more than just himself, and I think he has done an admirable job of getting important info out to us members, including telling us where we can get the info we want ourselves.

I agree that what the leadership of the Catholic Church has done is reprehensible, but does that mean that EVERY Catholic priest is a pedophile? Does that mean that EVERY bishop has covered up pedophilic priests? Most likely, the answer is no. I'm no fan of the Catholic Church, but I still recognize prejudice when I see it. To prejudge EVERY Catholic as a pedophile, or conspirator, is a knee-jerk reaction to a terrible series of events, but it won't help this situation, and blaming Richard for it is both irresponsible, and careless.

Maybe I'm naive, but I honestly believe that some people really do join the ministry because of a calling by God, and to do good work on this earth... not just to get access, so they can screw little kids. It's a shame that a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch.

Please, Matt, take a deep breath. Go to the link that Richard offered to us, and do your own homework. Hey Tinfoil! Can you post the link where you found YOUR info, so we can take a look there ourselves? Thanks!

We're in this together.

Jeremy

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We're in this together. - Nine Inch Nails

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#34111 - 06/12/02 09:29 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
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It takes real guts for me to come back here. Is it just me alone against the Catholic Church? I'm just some little dork hardly able to afford a six pack of beer. I don't want to be sued,lose my home and end up on some street corner holding a tin cup & cardboard sign. But after what I've seen I've gotta ask myself what the hell does the Archdiocese of New York have to do with a website that has pedo/boylover posts posted? I've got a bunch of them on file that I've saved over the last two years. I mean,is NOMSV a website set up for priests to get their rocks off interacting with victims? Is NOMSV some bullshit scam? What the hell's this African American connection? Looks to me like some New Age artsy fartsy ripoff scam. Makes me wonder if NOMSV's associated with that black woman we've been watching on tv that tells your fortune. You guys out there who've been screwed once--don't get screwed again. There's folks out there who appraise you as having been screwed once you're stupid & vulnerable enough to be screwed again.


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#34112 - 06/12/02 09:34 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
getteddie Offline
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Registered: 07/19/01
Posts: 226
Loc: Cub Hill, Md
Everyone,
The Vatican is the richest thing in the world..isn't it? They see trouble coming to them in the form of past SA...What do they do ..set up sites like this one to see what the Suvivors are talking about...so they can take the proper actions!!!! Why not??? Maybe all the Board Members and Richard don't know of this...everyone is always so naive to conspiricies until they are exposed. Big brother and the Holding Company...Big Brother...the Pope...Holding Comany...the Vatican...so rich that they can do anything that they want...Build NOMSV through other parties that have nothing to do with them...Like the Mob...into everything!!! Who could find out about this???? NBC can air anything that money pays for...make interviews and use everything in the context that they want...I guess that we will see what happens!!! Does the Board run NOMSV or the Vatican...who is really behind everything...the Pope???? Richard do you really know or just think that you do?????

Eddie


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#34113 - 06/12/02 09:42 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
Anonymous
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I used the Google search engine,searched "NOMSV tax exempt" and found this http://www.aapci.org/html/sgp268.html
Scroll down to NOMSV


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#34114 - 06/12/02 09:59 PM Re: What's the AAPC..??
Anonymous
Unregistered


I websurf "NOMSV tax exempt" on Google and find this
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Bernadette Parker Board Chairperson.
Catholic Charities of the Arch Diocese of New York
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Sure as fuck makes ya wonder!


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