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#338855 - 08/23/10 07:51 PM Notable Survivors
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This is a copy of a list of abuse survivors, from;
http://www.aswaterspassingby.org/notablesurvivors.html

Alexander Pushkin (poet) abuse, info courtesy of AEST
Alice Walker (author/activist) abuse
Andrea Dworkin (author/activist) rape
Angela Rose (activist) sexual assault
Angela Shelton (actress/model/director/actvist) incest
Angie Dickenson (actress, etc) emotional abuse
Anne Heche (actress) incest
Anne Sexton (poet) child sexual abuse, info courteousy of AEST
Antwone Fisher (author) emotional abuse/child sexual abuse
Axl Rose (musician) child sexual abuse (according to IMDB.com)
Baby Lyssa Chapman (famous bounty hunter/daughter of Dog) statutory rape
Beethoven (composer) unspecified child abuse
Beth Chapman (famous bail bondswoman/wife of Dog) domestic violence
Bill Clinton (former U.S. President) secondary domestic violence
Billie Holliday (singer) childhood rape
Billy Connoly (comedian) incest
Brett Butler (actress) domestic violence
Carlos Santana (musician) child sexual abuse
Carrie Otis (model) rape
Chester Bennington (musician) child sexual abuse
Christina Aguilera (singer) unspecified child abuse/secondary domestic violence
Christina Applegate (actress) dating violence
Christina Crawford (author) emotional abuse
Cindy Williams (actress) emotional abuse
Clara Bow (actress) incest
Connie Francis (singer) rape
Dave Mustaine (musician) child physical abuse/secondary domestic violence
Dave Pelzer (author) multiple forms of abuse
Derek Luke (actor) child sexual abuse
Desi Arnaz, Jr. (actor) emotional abuse
Dog the Bounty Hunter (famous bounty hunter/reality TV stars) child physical abuse
Dorie VanStone (author) multiple forms of abuse
Drew Barrymore (actress) unspecified child abuse
Eleanor Roosevelt (former First Lady) unspecified child abuse
Elizabeth I (Queen of England) teenage sexual assault, info courteousy of AEST
Elizabeth Barrett Browning (poet) abuse, info courteousy of AEST
Elizabeth Loftus (psychologist) child sexual abuse
Ella Fitzgerald (singer) abuse
Emme (model) emotional abuse
Erin Gray (actress) unspecified child abuse
Eve Ensler (playwright/actress) incest
Fantasia (singer) teenage rape
Farrah Faucett (actress) domestic violence
Fiona Apple (musician) childhood rape
Florence Holway (artist/activist) rape
Fran Drescher (actress) rape
Gabrielle Union (actress) rape
Gavin DeBecker (violent crime expert) psychological abuse
George Orwell (author) unspecified child abuse
Greg Luganis (athlete) abuse
Halle Berry (actress, model) domestic violence
Henry Miller (writer) abuse, info courtesy of AEST
Henry Rollins (musician) child sexual abuse
Janice Dickenson (model) child physical & emotional abuse
Janice Mirikitani (poet) incest, Janice's story is featured on a DVD sold at RAINN's site
Johannes Brahms (composer) child sexual abuse, info courteousy of AEST
Jonathan Davis (musician) child sexual abuse
Joyce Meyer (evangelist, author) child physical abuse & incest
Kirk Hammett (musician) child physical & sexual abuse
Laveraneus Coles (athlete) child sexual abuse
Leslie Triber (author/poet) abuse
Lorena Bobbit - marital rape
Lynn C. Tolson (author) incest/domestic violence/sexual assault
Marie Waldrep (poet/activist) incest/domestic violence
Marilyn Manson (musician) child sexual abuse
Marilyn Monroe (actress) child physical & sexual abuse/childhood attempted rape (according to IMDB.com)/domestic violence
Marilyn VanDerber Atler (former Miss America) incest
Mary J. Blige (singer) emotional abuse/childhood rape/secondary domestic violence
Mary Wollestonecraft (author) child physical abuse
Mata Hari (famous spy) domestic violence
Maya Angelou (author, poet) childhood rape
Maynard James Keenan (musician) child sexual abuse
Meat Loaf (musician) peer abuse/parental physical abuse (?)
Mike Patton (musician) neglect/child sexual abuse
Missy Elliot (rapper, producer) child sexual abuse/secondary domestic violence
Nicole Brown Simpson - domestic violence
Oprah Winfrey (talk show host) child sexual abuse
Ozzy Osbourne (musician) emotional abuse
Pamela Anderson (actress) rape/domestic violence
Patricia Weaver Francisco (author) rape
Patsy Cline (singer) domestic violence
Patty Duke (actress, etc.) multiple forms of abuse, info courtesy of AEST
Paula White (evangelist, author) child sexual abuse
Queen Latifah (rapper/actress/model) child sexual abuse
Rain Pryor (actress) child physical abuse/teenage sexual abuse
Richard Nixon (former U.S. President) unspecified child abuse
Rita Hayworth (actress) incest
Robert Blake (actor) multiple forms of abuse, info courtesy of AEST
Rosanne Arnold (actress) child sexual abuse
Rose McGowan (actress) religious related (SRA?) abuse
Rosie Perez (actress) child sexual abuse
Rudyard Kipling (author) unspecified child abuse
Sandra Dee (actress) incest
Sinead O'Connor (musician) multiple forms of abuse, info courteousy of AEST
Stasi Eldredge (author) rape
Suzanne Somers (actress) emotional abuse
Teri Hatcher (actress) incest
Tina Turner (singer) domestic violence
Tom Arnold (actor, etc) abuse, info courtesy of AEST
Toni Childs (musician) abuse, info courteousy of AEST
Tori Amos (musician) rape
Virginia Woolf (author) incest
Viva (actress) child sexual abuse


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#338868 - 08/23/10 09:51 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: SamV]
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A good list, thanks for posting it. It is sometimes useful to see that even celebrities have been abused.

I'm sure many of you, like me, feel worthless sometimes because of abuse, so it is interesting to see that some of these people who we idolise have been abused too and we don't think any less of them for it.

But to talk of notable people- of course every survivor is notable and their struggle worthy. These survivors are perhaps more noticeable in some respects because they are in the public eye, but not necessarily more notable.

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#338875 - 08/23/10 10:14 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: king tut]
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Lewis,

Nice thoughts you expressed there.


Daryl

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#338923 - 08/24/10 05:45 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: prisonerID]
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Another one is Johnny Lydon, frontman for the bands the Sex Pistols and PIL. Although he doesn't identify it as child abuse, from his own account in his biography "No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs", Lydon describes an incident when he was 14 where in a fit of anger his father shattered his ankle with a shovel when he wouldn't get out of bed to go to school one morning. Perhaps Lydon simply chalks it up to the reality of growing up working class in England four decades ago (I don't know) but it raises interesting questions about what we call child abuse vs. what is considered culturally appropriate. I say so since I know a number of people who grew up in other places in the world who have described being physically disciplined as children in ways that would result child protective services becoming involved and charges being laid if the same happened here in North America. What are other's thoughts on this? JS

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#338925 - 08/24/10 06:12 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: jls]
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I completely agree JS. I grew up in the south, even though it's still North America, I think that things that happened in my childhood, if they happened elsewhere, it would be considered childhood abuse. My dad picked me up and threw me across the room once, landed on the table, broke the table and my arm. If my daddy wasn't best friends with the sheriff and my momma on the PTA at school, then maybe it would have been reported. But I remember my 2nd grade teacher at the time, telling me that I better mind my daddy next time. I also remember once in grade school getting sent to the principal's office for talking back to the teacher and getting spanked on my backside with a ruler. Going home that afternoon I got it even worse from my father. Black and blue marks on my backside just meant that I was a bad kid, not that someone took punishment too far. Stuff like that would never be tolerated now, even in the south!


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#338939 - 08/24/10 08:56 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: DrReid]
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While there is a time and a place for everything, physical discipline and punishment are a thin line from each other.

Discipline designs a learning, trust, self power and respect process. If this is damaged by attrition or by over reacting, then the process fails.

They still have corporal punishment in Mississippi schools, that's right, the paddle, and I know it was used, on teenage students, last season.

Please, fellas, jls, move this to off topic, as a new thread, You, I, and Reid have a little corner of this hot topic, and I think that CSA and physical abuse are connected. There will be much conversation, I think.

I was a victim, and a survivor of both.

Thank you for this,
Sam


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#338940 - 08/24/10 08:58 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: DrReid]
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Hi, my brothers,

Yep, the beatings & thrown knives, my "mom" should have been locked up. But in he '40's.Wasn't even thought about.

Those Catholic nuns, rulers, hit on your knuckles, plus the rattan on your finger tips, and the hits on your head.
Corporal punishment, is what it was called.

Those Catholic Brothers, smacks, punches, rattan & the infamous
paddle with the hunk of lead in it, across your bare ass, while you were bent over and holding on to your ankles. It drew blood at times.
Same here corporal punishment.

Yep, we boys, were just bad kids.

"I will take that lost boys hand. and lead him from the depths of darkness, into the sunshine, forever into eternity."

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#338948 - 08/25/10 12:02 AM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: petercorbett]
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Registered: 07/27/10
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Loc: North Dakota
It was the physcal abuse coming from the hands of the people that were supposed to love me most, that left me more confused than my sexual abuse. I felt I had no one safe to turn to.

Whatever was within reach that would drive the fear deeper than any bruises or scars could go. When pain is dished out with anger and rage it is no longer punishment. At that point it is clearly abuse, but to a child it was just confusing. I was finally able, just this last year, to see it as abuse and not just a firm upbringing. Beating fear into a child, destroying treasured possesions, making threats that they are going to kill your dog for barking too much, is not parenting.

This load of unresolved garbage has deffinitely had an impact on my recovery. I'm thankful that I can see it for what it truly was and can now process it as well. It is just going to mean more time and effort.


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#338971 - 08/25/10 12:41 PM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: SamV]
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You are so right that it’s a thin line between discipline and punishment. Here in Canada our Criminal Code allows for physical correction of a child under 12, although it is not clear what exactly is considered “correction”. I personally don’t consider it abusive to use physical correction with very young children who are incapable of understanding reason (as in children under six) but my interpretation of correction with kids this age doesn’t necessarily have to involve corporal punishment as we know it. Rather, I don’t see a problem with a mild slap or two on a clothed bottom when a small child isn’t following direction (just to get the point across concerning who’s boss) or physically removing a young child from an immediate threat to him or herself, like being near a hot stove or playing in traffic, for example. However, when children reach the age of reason I don’t believe physical correction has a place. In my opinion time outs, taking away privileges, and grounding work better as children get older, namely because at this age they are more apt to benefit from understanding that one has to expect tangible real world consequences for their behaviour that shouldn’t involve violence, just as we adults do. On a parting note, like others here I can attest to the difference between discipline and abuse. I received my fair share of discipline growing up in the form of time outs, loss of privileges, etc, along with the infrequent slap on the bottom for not following parental direction when I was very young, yet after my parents split when I was 12 my father became a different person and would attack me, pushing and shoving me into walls and twisting my arm behind my back to the point I thought it would break, all while yelling verbal abuse and profanities. That was not discipline in my mind. It was an example of someone who was out of control, which I was the victim of. Anyways just my thoughts. JS



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#339706 - 09/06/10 08:29 AM Re: Notable Survivors [Re: jls]
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also Marvin Gaye(musician)child sexual abuse


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