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#333589 - 06/12/10 05:03 PM Movies Which Cause Anxiety
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I have elsewhere listed a bunch of movies which I maintained had promoted psychological healing in me.

There is another kind of movie which moves me in the opposite direction. And I'm not talking about porn here but seemingly normal movies which trigger deep-seated anxieties or fears in me. Some of them are otherwise thought to be children's movies or otherwise harmless movies.

First on my list is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Both the old and the new versions. Here a boy, about 12, is taken into the chocolate factory with other children. Then all kinds of nefarious things happen to the children. They never emerge as the children that went in. Well, this idea filled me with anxiety. The idea was to be taken into a strange house where strange things are done to children and where most of them never come out as they were. Do you get it?

Another one was Sleepy Hollow. Here, the effect on me happened subconsciously. I watched the movie with some interest, not being overly serious about it. But then POW! The next morning I awaken with all these paranoid fears. I feel like I'm paralyzed. Got it?

Then there's the matter of Alice In Wonderland. When I was a boy the TV version of this filled me with anxiety. Here again was a girl who was thrust into situations beyond her own control. She was subjected to all kinds of weird trials and put under the control of nefarious and wicked rulers. Things in her life became hopelessly unpredictable.

There are others but that's all I have time for now.

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#333622 - 06/13/10 03:06 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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Like you, Pufferfish, I experience severe anxiety and bad feelings with certain movies and such. Sometimes, I am ashamed to admit this, but I can not help it. For me, I experience feelings of triggers so I try and protect myself by trying not to watch many movies. I am very selective what I do outside of my professional life.


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#333629 - 06/13/10 09:30 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Kiev]
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#333677 - 06/13/10 08:53 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: kidneythis]
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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory did it for me,too. I was not a kid when it came out (yeah, I'm old), but I did see it on TV - well ,portions of it since it creeped me out. There is an ad on TV here in Seattle about some electronic product and it has the song from the movie as the soundtrack...."remember when you were five years old and you had dreams?" YES, I DO remember when I was 5, but everything became hopelessly ruined by a neighbor....


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#334207 - 06/20/10 03:21 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: alan55]
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I struggle with the Transformers movie. Certain parts really trigger me.


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#338256 - 08/13/10 03:40 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Kiev]
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Allen,
I just watched "The Sixth Sense". Again, it made me really check "what is real?" (but not on an intellectual level). I saw it years back, and was thrown similarly then. I wonder how others have been affected by it. Considering quite a few wrestle with DID, and considering this movie's affect on me, I was wondering if I have it too. THAT's why this movie is a real shocker for me.

Alfred



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#338261 - 08/13/10 05:41 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: fhorns]
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I watched Misery again recently. Though not quite as wacko as the psychotic Annie Wilkes, my mother was also both caretaker and abuser in one, so it sure set up some broken dynamics.



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#338322 - 08/14/10 07:27 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: fhorns]
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Originally Posted By: fhorns
Allen,
I just watched "The Sixth Sense". Again,

Considering quite a few wrestle with DID, and considering this movie's affect on me, I was wondering if I have it too.


Alfred

I guess a lot of guys here have a "light-to-medium" case of DID. The light cases are sometimes hard to spot. I guess I had a light-to-medium case and I quit my DID specialist before he actually pronounced that I was "free".

I guess I had a group of symptoms related to DID. I had (and still have somewhat) the depersonalization disorder. I think this comes to kids who get tortured and they lose their sense of identity. Then they keep looking for themselves. That sounds odd but I have sure done it a lot. Also I have had the symptom of "looking" for the kids who abused me. I used to hear of Robbie Brown having that syndrome. Others have a derealization disorder. I see that occasionally in guys here in MS.

Depersonalization Disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder

Derealization Disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization


I read the book: The Fractured Mind, by Robert Oxnam. He ended the book with having 3 alters-personalities incompletely unified. Presumably he kept on working on it.

I'm not sure whether Sixth Sense is supposed to be based on a real story or not. It sure is spooky. I remember feeling so worried about that boy, as to whether his fears would be justified or not.

Sometimes I have thought I could tell that certain things were going to happen. Frequently in traffic I can sense when someone wants to change lanes even before they signal. Of course maybe I'm reading some tiny movement of his wheel or something.

DID books are sometimes hard to read because DID is such a wide spectrum of things in different people. It's not too common to have the "classic" form of DID in which there is a change in alters(personalities) with amnesia between them.

Allen





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#338383 - 08/15/10 10:12 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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I watched White Squall last night. It triggered me very severly. I had to stop watching it. I needed to go out for a drive to settle down. I watched it before several years ago, before I came out of denial about my CSA. It certainly didn't affect me negatively when I watched back then.

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#338433 - 08/16/10 04:50 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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"It's not too common to have the "classic" form of DID in which there is a change in alters(personalities) with amnesia between them."

To even meet the criteria of having a dissociative identity disorder or Multiple Personality Disorder as it was formerly called, one MUST have amnesia between the states of being (personalities).

Therefore if it wasn't or isn't common to have the alters (personalities) switch WITHIOUT the amensia between the personalities, then it would be impossible to be dissocative idientities in the first place, and so on Allen. Just my 2 cents worth.


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#338435 - 08/16/10 04:59 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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I was diagnosed with D.I.D., PTSD, Depersonalization Disorder, Manic Depressive, Schizotypal, Schizophrenic, and Immature Personality Disorder.

I am not a Can of Soup! The first three were correct disgnostic determinations. The latter were misdiagnosis' by people who didn't and probably still don't think D.I.D. is even a real condition.


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#338442 - 08/16/10 06:13 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: GeorgeMartin]
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Let me clarify my previous position. IF the amnesia doesn't exist between "alters" (personalities) then it is perhaps between usually the "host" personality (the one that maintains function "most" of the time and the "other" personalities.

Or the "host" personality is aware of some of them, yet the internal personalities are not aware of the "others" personalities who are internal. Or the internal personalities are not aware of the "host" personality, though usually they are aware. Amnesia between personalities has to be part of the clinical picture of the client for them to be diagnosed with D.I.D. or else they would not be truely D.I.D. now would they?


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#338457 - 08/16/10 11:42 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: FormerTexan]
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A movie called The Heart is Decieteful Above All Things made me cringe at certain parts.

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#338571 - 08/18/10 02:00 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: GeorgeMartin]
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The movie: Song For a Raggy Boy caused anxiety for me.

Originally Posted By: GeorgeMartin
Let me clarify my previous position. IF the amnesia doesn't exist between "alters" (personalities) then it is perhaps between usually the "host" personality (the one that maintains function "most" of the time and the "other" personalities.

Or the "host" personality is aware of some of them, yet the internal personalities are not aware of the "others" personalities who are internal. Or the internal personalities are not aware of the "host" personality, though usually they are aware. Amnesia between personalities has to be part of the clinical picture of the client for them to be diagnosed with D.I.D. or else they would not be truely D.I.D. now would they?


George, you have hinted at the potential complexity of the disorder (DID). It not only varies considerably from person to person but varies in time within the same person.

For instance, I have dissociated the visual field of my left and right eyes. That is a hard sucker to deal with.

I had a traumatic lapse of my amnesia when I was about 45. Before that I must have had an amnesia between alters which then also collapsed. I realized I was a 12-year-old boy alter* and I felt that was my "core" or main person. Here was a "core" who was not a "host". (The boy alter was suppressed or not allowed "out" as far as I can remember). I also had some miscellaneous and sundry other child alters. But I retained my adult, educated alter who was a teacher. I had very little amnesia between these. And there may have been a couple of others, like musician and a impoverished raggy boy and sexy boy. Actually, impoverished raggy boy might have been my core. These are all somewhat mysterious. What went before is all a mystery at this point since it all evaporated.

There is a case of DID I have read about in the book by Marilyn VanDerber, Miss America by Day. In that book, she was a consistent person during the daytime but her abuse had been at night. She never says so explicitly, but the implication was that she was a different alter at night.

I'm still trying to work all this out and I've resumed writing a journal in hope that I can figure it out. To figure it out is to be 95% healed of it. Often I feel like an adult raggy boy these days (whatever that is) (see the movie: Song for a Raggy Boy)

Allen

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* a boy alter is not the same as an alter boy. A boy alter is an alternate personality who is still a child. An alter boy is a boy who has some role in the rites of the Catholic church. smile



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#338582 - 08/18/10 04:56 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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I tend to navigate towards these kind of movies because I really have few emotions towards my own abuse but when I watch these movies they bring out this lack of emotion and I get pissed or saddened or some other emotion I don't usually feel about my own abuse. On real bad movies such as "Mysterious Skin" or "Where the Wild Things Are" (mostly that one because that book literally kept me alive when I was a kid) I may need to take breaks, but they don't upset me.

A few weeks ago I watched "The Heart is Deceitful Above all Things" and that movie screwed me right up. The particular scenes when it happened I was so triggered I puked. I had nightmares to the point where I was puking several nights after. I don't know why, it just got it right I guess.


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#338615 - 08/19/10 02:43 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Riley]
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Yeah Ryan, I know the exact feeling, actually from that exact movie! "The Heart is Deceitful Above all Things," is a revoltingly trigger-infested movie for me.

I have puked from severe triggers before, but not from movies. From nightmare/flashback/relive-the-memory, type of triggers, I have vomited.

My advice is to try to avoid stuff like that; especially visual stuff. That is unless your intention is to trigger a response to the media or stimuli.

Take care, Buddy
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#338708 - 08/20/10 05:34 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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Quote:
I had (and still have somewhat) the depersonalization disorder. I think this comes to kids who get tortured and they lose their sense of identity.


Allen. I have been diagnosed with Derealization Disorder. I think that the way that it comes about, Torture, severe deprivation of normalcy for extend periods to kids, like in your and my case can bring about either disorder: derealization or depersonalization. I am not certain of this, I just believe the disorders to be related and maybe the causes are related as well. When I was diagnosed with Derealization Disorder, the trauma specialists told me that I had many symptoms of Depersonalization, so maybe it is just how one person copes as to another, which one their mind chooses to use.

I very weird when I disassociate with this. I feel Like I am not real and I am in a dream and everyone around me is also not real.
It almost feels like I am underwater, I know that sounds strange. Its very difficult to describe. I also feel virtually nothing when like this but it is difficult to get out of it- the best grounding technique for me that I have learned is to hold ice-cubes in my hands for a while.

Great information, Allen. You're Very knowledgeable on this subject.

Your Pal,
Logan



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#338714 - 08/20/10 08:10 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Logan]
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Logan,

Thank you for your reply on this subject. I don't feel very knowledgeable about depersonalization and derealization disorders. I definitely have a constellation of symptoms, which I talked over with my T yesterday, but they don't seem to line up with the "textbook" (DMSIV) definition of depersonalization. So I haven't figured it out yet. My T seems to think it's depersonalization. It's getting better but when I went to work on the memorial thread for Liri I had a very real relapse for some reason.

I have a couple of books on this subject and there is a bunch of stuff on the internet. But as I say, it's confusing because it doesn't seem to line up with my stuff. My T is leaving for a trip to "Lake Winnepesaukah" for a few weeks so I'll just have to hunker down (whatever that means frown ) and do some reading.

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#338718 - 08/20/10 09:08 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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Here's a story about kidnap with a strong involvement of the Stockholm syndrome:

The movie A Perfect World.

Allen

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#338735 - 08/21/10 02:47 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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Taken from the Wiki-site:
"Derealization is a subjective experience of unreality of the outside world, while depersonalization is unreality in one's sense of self. Although most authors currently regard derealization (surroundings) and depersonalization (self) as independent constructs, many do not want to separate derealization from depersonalization.[2] The main reason for this is nosological, because these symptoms often co-occur, but there is another reason of great philosophical importance, namely, that the phenomenological experience of self, others, and world is one continuous whole. Thus, feelings of unreality may blend in and the person may puzzle over deciding whether it is the self or the world that feels unreal to them." The underlined section is the original point I was trying to make.

I also want to that severe sleep Deprivation can cause my senses to become very similar to this and can cause severe dissociation in myself. Basically the feeling is the same therefore I will say that symptomatically(the way in which the present themselves) they are related.

Allen, I am going to look more into the last thing that you said before I reply'
-Logan

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#338736 - 08/21/10 03:12 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Riley]
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Hey Ryan.
I'm sorry I did not address this before.

When I was very early on in my own healing process, I would also try to deliberately Trigger myself, because I did not then have clear recollection of what had happened to me in some of the instances.

Sure I had Mem's of the Abuse, but they were weird, like they were distorted and not like any of my other memories, the normal ones.

My therapist explained to me that there is a process to follow because of safety reasons. That it is possible to become re-traumatized just buy trying to evoke Memories of my own situation. He then went on to decribe to me how trauma mem's and normal mem's are not processed and therefor not recorded or stored the same way in the brain.

That is why many of my memories frightened me when I though back to them.
For example, Many of the Mem's of the real bad stuff happening to me, is from the prospective of me being on the Ceiling of the room! Now obviously this in not physically possible, but at the time I did not know why I saw things from that perspective and upon later recalling the events, was terrified more by them because I thought I was going crazy and I thought That I could not possibly be remembering what had ACTUALLY happened back then.
It was only later with discussions from my T, and reading a lot about it that I found out that trauma memories can be like this and are pretty common to some degree.

I hope this helps you know that your definably not alone in the way that you are trying to get a response from you mind, so that you may be able to actually deal with the issues.

You really need to see a Therapist that Deals with trauma and they will be able to explain to you a lot more than I can.

Take care, Man!
Your Buddy,
Logan

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#342168 - 10/15/10 05:51 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: pufferfish]
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Forest Gump had the most profound impact on me and it wasn't because of the abuse sub-plot with Forest's girlfriend, it was the soundtrack.

The music from the 60's and 70's sent me into blubbering mess and caught me completely off guard, so that I didn't even see the movie.

I spaced out and as each new song played more tears flowed. You could call it the soundtrack to my abuse, meaning that it comes from that time period in my childhood when the abuse was happening.

That was quite a profound experience I must say, given that it triggered my sub-conscious.

Oh and I don't cope well with zombie movies. I remember 28 Days Later (British horror zombie flick) gave me nightmares for 3 days after I saw it. I am Legend with Will Smith has a similar affect. Cringe.

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#345360 - 11/16/10 03:03 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: blaidd]
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This is my first post. I am not sure why I am motivated to post in this thread as opposed to the welcome thread, except that I recently had an odd trigger. I saw Roger Waters preform The Wall and it fouled an otherwise great show. Prior to my abuse I saw the film of the same name. A few years latter I was abused for a couple of years. I have never really watched the film again. The trigger was during the "Trial," when I saw the rag doll with no expression at the bottom of cell just before the judge shits on him. I recognized what I had been carrying around as a self image was the expressionless rag doll from that movie. It was as vivid as if you looked into the mirror in the morning before shaving and recognized yourself.
I am not sure if this will work but here is a link. About 4:32 is the specific frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5fKD17HaE8


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#346501 - 11/29/10 07:42 AM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: GeorgeMartin]
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The curious case of benjamin button.I have never seen such a good movie like this.

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#346613 - 11/29/10 10:09 PM Re: Movies Which Cause Anxiety [Re: Logan]
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Originally Posted By: Logan

My therapist explained to me that there is a process to follow because of safety reasons. That it is possible to become re-traumatized just buy trying to evoke Memories of my own situation. He then went on to decribe to me how trauma mem's and normal mem's are not processed and therefor not recorded or stored the same way in the brain.

That is why many of my memories frightened me when I though back to them.


I think that happened to me. That is, when I remembered the abuse (or the amnesia lapsed to use different words), I actually re-traumatized myself. I did it on my own. In retrospect, it seems like it would have been better to have the help of a T.

Also, I had another T, later, for DID. He taught me how to do deep relaxation in his office for therapy. He used it to bring up memories linked to different alters in my childhood. Then I took the technique and ran with it. I started doing it at home. I would put on a tape recording and then put myself into deep relaxation and play the tape in order to speed up the therapy process. It worked well at first but then after a few months it crashed. I guess it was like taking a Ferrari out at 250 mph. I'll explain more in another post.

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