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#328622 - 04/16/10 06:01 PM School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger)
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parents-file-class-action-suitFoxnews Video

What kind of morons are in this school district and why is there apparently not a criminal investigation into whether child porn was produced as a result of this. You will see what I am talking about when you see the picture they showed. How many kids get put in jail and labeled sex offenders for passing cell and webcam photos of themselves or their bf/gfs? Then this school district distributes laptops with secret recording devices taking pictures of teens without their knowledge or consent. The picture I am talking about is a teen boy sleeping in his bed. Lets see, what percentage of teen boys masturbate in their beds. How many of them unwittingly undressed in the privacy of their own room in front of these cameras. The chances of them having NOT done it are pretty friggin small. What idiots! The one tech person refused to testify at a deposition pleading the Fifth Amendment (right not to testify if it may tend to incriminate them in a criminal proceeding). She apparently has pictures on her computer at home.

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#328623 - 04/16/10 06:21 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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I think morons says it.
I cannot imagine how a group of adults cold have thought this a good idea unless they are somehow all deviant or extremely unfit for the positions they hold.

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#328637 - 04/16/10 08:59 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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Wikipedia Article Summarizing the Dispute

Notice the end of this article. Some real idiot parents are opposing the lawsuit because it will cost them money. How many of them will stick when they find pictures of their kids naked are floating through the internet. I say again that the chances that child pornography was produced are almost guaranteed. The more facts I find the more infuriated I get.

BTW, as an experienced paralegal who has read quite a bit of caselaw on privacy issues, this school is so completely screwed I can't believe they have not settled. A government entity secretly inserting cameras into innocent childrens homes without warrants. You even have the administrator bragging about the ability to do this without the user being aware.



Edited by catfish86 (04/16/10 10:21 PM)
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#328642 - 04/16/10 10:13 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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its horrifying 400+ pics of this boy and an undetermined number of photos allegedly destroyed! And all the victims have had similar numbers of pics taken or even more.

I'd ask, what were you thinking? if I thought anyone had thought about this.



Edited by kidneythis (04/16/10 10:19 PM)
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#328647 - 04/16/10 10:52 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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I'm going to apologize up front, because I'm very upset, so I hope I don't offend anyone. I'm going to swear further down in my reply so that my swearing doesn't appear in the first few lines. (And I have edited this to add a few more words to the beginning here.) Ahem...

I am FUCKING OUTRAGED by this!!! What kind of SICK BASTARDS would do a thing like that to anyone, let alone kids?!?! DO THEY REALIZE HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THOSE CHILDREN FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES?!?!?! HOW MANY SUICIDES MIGHT HAPPEN BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE KIDS CAN'T LIVE WITH THE EMBARRASSMENT OF THEIR NAKED PICTURES ON THE INTERNET!!!!! THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS!!! WHOEVER DID THIS SHOULD BE FORCED TO PAY FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNSELING, IN PERPETUITY, FOR ALL OF THOSE KIDS!!! AND GOD HELP WHOMEVER DID THIS IF EVEN ONE KID KILLS HIMSELF/HERSELF OVER THIS!!!

I'm sorry. This has made me infuriated. ADD to that the fact that a school was involved. I used to be a teacher (if only for a short time), but I would have been a good one. And I know several good teachers, as well. But it's events like these that have given schools and teachers such a bad reputation.

This is why I don't pay attention to the news. I'm not an angry person by nature; never have been. But if I met whomever was responsible for this walking down the street, God help him.

I hope someone sets up counseling centers IMMEDIATELY for all those kids. I'm so afraid one or more of them might die as a result of this disgusting event.

Again, my apologies if I upset anyone. Remember that I was very emotional when I wrote this.

Bobcat



Edited by TheBobcatAgain (04/16/10 10:53 PM)
Edit Reason: Adding more words at start

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#328652 - 04/16/10 11:24 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: TheBobcatAgain]
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I would like to say one last thing:

Catfish, I hold no indignation about your posting this. You did label this post as triggering, and that was kind and thoughtful of you. Thank you, buddy. That was very considerate.

Your friend,

Bobcat

P.S. - Can I ask a favor of you, or anyone else who reads this? If anyone can, please make a suggestion to the news or the schools about immediate therapy for the students - even if it turns out the pictures don't get out to the Internet. These are teenagers, the age group with statistically the greatest self-esteem issues. Even if a student thought incorrectly that there was a private picture of himself/herself floating around out there, that thought could be the one that ends up turning a decision from living into one of suicide.

I'm sorry to ask this of anyone, but I can't do it myself. My CSA is prohibiting me from signing up at any other site. I don't trust technology, and this story hasn't helped. I'm concerned for those kids, but I'm also scared. frown



Edited by TheBobcatAgain (04/16/10 11:49 PM)
Edit Reason: adding my P.S.

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#328667 - 04/17/10 05:21 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: TheBobcatAgain]
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I think the best thing to do is to go out and run my errand and come back again, then I might have calmed down enough to post about it.

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#328679 - 04/17/10 08:52 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: ComicBookGuy]
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Thank God we have public schools! (sorry, can't help it)

On a more serious note:

As an IT staff member, one would not have to be a victim\survivor of sexual abuse to have the wisdom and courage to take the moral stance of refusing to participate and implement the software that enabled this to happen. Whoever blindly and willingly installed this spyware on these laptops are no less guilty than whomever thought of the idea to install it in the first place.

The IT Manager of this school district and all that helped to implement this program should be fired, immediately. There is no excuse for this. It matters not that the computers were the property of the school. It matters not what the contents of the fine print of the lease agreement stated that the parents signed when they allowed their children to take the computers.

WHAT on God's green earth could the motivation for having this software on these laptops POSSIBLY be besides pure voyeurism?

"Research"? "Security?" Yeah, right. Here's one, how about getting off while spying on children when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy?


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#328693 - 04/17/10 11:18 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: Hauser]
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After reading some further articles, two IT personnel are on paid leave pending an investigation. The FBI and county DA are both investigating. I can only say that the proof will be in whether someone gets prosecuted for producing child porn. We all know enough about teen sexuality and where these laptops were to know that having these things snap thousands of photographs could not have avoided producing photographs any pedo would kill for. Add to that one an email exchange where one IT tech said "this is like watching a LMSD(Lower Merian School District) soap opera" to which the other replied, "I know, I love it".

If noone is prosecuted, especially given the recent trend of labeling sexting teens as sex offenders, I think we all will split a gasket.

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#328705 - 04/17/10 01:01 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Bobcat,
The sad part is that any "imagined photo", lets face it that is whats going to bother them thinking about all the things they did in private that might now be "out there", that might make the kid have mental issues is probably too embarrassing to speak about at this point in time, which is the requirement for getting better or past it. The kids who have this problem aren't going to get over it until they are adults well into their twenties or beyond.

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#328712 - 04/17/10 02:16 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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kidneythis,

That's a sad commentary. And you might be right. But the way I see it, the schools need to pay to get those kids into therapy RIGHT NOW. Recovery might take years, but suicide takes minutes.

Just my opinion.

Bobcat


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#328793 - 04/18/10 09:46 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: TheBobcatAgain]
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I really don't understand what made them think that was a good idea.

The perpetrators need to be punished and the students should receive support.

The school needs whole new management, how do children suppose to trust their teachers and learn in an environment that they can no longer trust. Those kids are going to be constantly looking over their shoulders in that school. It is no longer a good environment for learning.

And think about the children in that school who have been sexually abused in the past, they are going to find it very difficult being in a school that takes secret photos of them in their bedrooms.

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#328802 - 04/18/10 10:51 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: king tut]
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Therapy? What the hell are you guys talking about? Just knowing that the possibility that an embarrassing picture might have been taken at the right exact time while they had the laptops in their possession is no automatic reason to assume they need therapy. Please.


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#328805 - 04/18/10 11:57 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: Hauser]
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Hauser,
Let me give you another POV.
The point of the therapy is because they do not know if that possibility happened or not. If not, no one is hurt as badly as if so, then someone is hurt more deeply than by just the violation of trust the whole thing is without doubt.

How does one know one way or the other? In this case one can't know. The perps have even claimed to have "deleted" hundreds or thousands of pics. Who's going to believe them? Not me. They've proven they cannot be trusted.

Then one has to account for the unique vulnerability of a teenager, prone to huge swings in emotion, mood and thought based on the smallest input. The number of seriously damaged will be small but they are there. The insecure to begin with, the mentally immature who haven't yet felt their own power (maybe we can sympathize here?) and others in a weakened state just because of life's circumstances.

Some won't feel it until much later in life, IDK why but it does happen that way. I think dissociation has something to do with that.

To find out they have been spied upon, not knowing what if anything was seen. Which will provoke constant second guessing and ruminative review of what they did when and where was the computer when they did it. This alone can make a vulnerable kid nuts and extremely insecure.

That is the premise for the call out to ensure they have unrestricted access to therapy for life.

If our health care system was decent or fair there would be no need for this, they would be able to get help whenever they needed to and it wouldn't ever occur to someoene to make sure it was available.

We only have the best healthcare in the world if we have money. The rest have to make do with subpar doctors, care and limited help as well as deliberate manipulation and deciet from our medical care providers who are constantly making negative interpetive judgments and passing diagnosis on us to justify all this behind our backs. The impetus is a false view that we all are just faking it, and wasting their profits.

Once again MONEY is the thing that is important here not the thing that actually is important.



Edited by kidneythis (04/18/10 11:58 AM)
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#328862 - 04/18/10 07:37 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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Adding to what kidneythis said, remember the kid in Missouri that posed as a girl to trick boys into taking embarassing photos then used it to blackmail them into being his sexual toys. This may have occurred because the female IT worker seems very resistant to her home computer being examined and is pleading the fifth amendment. Sounds like they are buying time to clean the computer up. Remember our female abused brethren here. The school stating they haven't found any inappropriate use may only mean they think they have covered their tracks.

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#328864 - 04/18/10 07:46 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Please don't think that I don't appreciate the empathy you display for these kids, in fact, I admire it. It speaks highly of your character.

I just don't think that every single teen is so insecure and brittle that the slightest trespass requires "therapy".


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#328876 - 04/18/10 09:51 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: Hauser]
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That is NOT a slight trespass. That is the most heinous form of trespass sans only sexual assault. It is in fact a form of sexual assault.
Would you say you were brittle when you were assaulted and that is why it invaded your whole life and harms you now?
It isn't a lack of character or personal strength which allows the child to be hurt by the invasion of their most personal space.
Where is your head?




Edited by kidneythis (04/18/10 09:55 PM)
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#328893 - 04/18/10 10:45 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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Hauser, I see your point. There is a point at which therapy is not needed for every slight and mishap of childhood. A few good parents and other mentors should be plenty. However, kidneythis is correct that such a case does, at least in Ohio, constitute a sexual assault. We had a gymnastics instructor in our community that was filming the girls in dressing rooms and during hosted sleepovers for gymnastics teams. He was put away for a long time on charges that included sexual assault even though he had not touched any of the girls. This can produce a good deal of trauma. My heart sinks and my stomache turns at the thought of my perp taking pictures.

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#328898 - 04/18/10 11:24 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Hauser,

You could easily be right in that none or only a few of those kids need therapy. The problem is, as I see it, you could also be easily wrong. The trouble with suicide is that we seldom see it BEFORE it happens. And even when we do, the symptoms of suicidality are sometimes acknowledged as "nothing serious". Think of the shock family members receive from their own kids committing suicide. The shock indicates the child had a serious problem that no one saw or had the foresight to see.

I'm not condemning you, Hauser. Seriously, I wouldn't do that. I understand your point of view, and maybe I'm overreacting. Perhaps I should have said that the students be OFFERED therapy if they feel they need it. Does that sound better, buddy?

kidneythis, I love you, man! You said exactly EVERYTHING I would have said, and MUCH better than I would have said it. Good job, buddy!

Thank you, Hauser and kidneythis, for presenting both sides of that issue. And thank you, Catfish, for presenting the topic.

Have a good day, my brothers. smile

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#328922 - 04/19/10 08:48 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: TheBobcatAgain]
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This is an editorial this morning with a court document. It is instructive to note that the LMSD policy was to activate the spy technology when a laptop was reported stolen or missing. Blake failed to pay the $55 fee and LMSD claimed this allowed them to activate. But first of all, THEY KNEW WHO HAD IT. Second, they had it turned on for 15 DAYS. Third, it just so happened this kid is a good looking kid. Then you find evidence from others that pictures were transferred to her home computer that were "purged". Now Carol the "I'm loving it" IT tech refuses to turn over her home computer in spite of a court order. Her attorney says there was no request for the computer despite the court issuing an order for it but Blake's attorny was only doing that because "his case is falling apart."

Editorial

pdf of Robbins Motion

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#328930 - 04/19/10 11:35 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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I have a used Motherboard installed in my laptop. It ran fine and in fact was quite a bit faster than my other computer with a faster processor after I installed a 7200rpm HD.

then one day I decided I needed to set a password on the machine and I couldn't. Come to find Toshiba had a recall on the machine's BIOS and would fix it for free. When I got it back it is slower than it was when I first bought it and the lojack software is activated.
Absolute has been great trying to turn it off but they can't find my machine online and Toshiba is now refusing to accept responsibility for their actions even though I forwarded the Absolute Software emails in which their man told me they get hundreds of cases like mine where BIOS work has turned it on in machines that the owners had not paid for it to be activated. They're happy to fix it if I pay!

I'm not sure how this realates here but I don't like having to use this thing with that program running. I don't have a cam, I wouldn't if given a choice but you have to have one if you buy an up to date laptop now.

Anyway I've written The guy I was dealing with at absolute and he's forwarded it to managment and sent me their emial. He isn't permitted to comment.

Here is the website for the mentioned software. It is meant for legitimate managment of networks.
www.lanrev.com/



Edited by kidneythis (04/19/10 11:36 AM)
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#328984 - 04/19/10 10:41 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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Reality Check: 56,000 photos randomly snapped with many in their homes and we know some showed the teen's beds, but not one "inappropriate" image was produced. Check your basic statistics on teen behavior and tell me this would be an expected result.

Next bombshell: 56,000 photos, none of them "inappropriate"

You can't tell me the district "independent investigator" is credible.

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#328992 - 04/20/10 12:12 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Hmm..lets see being 31, I am "inappropriate" atleast once a day, the average teen is probably atleast 3 times that. So I highly doubt that one of those pictures wasn't inappropriate.

Frankly all the pictures are in my opinion inappropriate, if the school thinks the computers are stolen it doesn't need to take screen shots and webcam pics every 15 minutes. If it is that big of a problem install GPS devices in the computers and that will tell you exactly where it is. Plus in the case of the person who didn't pay his $55 insurance fee, you know who didn't pay the insurance fee you know the kid has it.

It was best said by members of the school district IT department in an email "Its like a LMSD soap opera". LMSD stands for Lower Marion School District which is the district where this occured.

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#328994 - 04/20/10 12:27 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: onlyakid]
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Oh and by the way this isn't the first time that the Lower Marion School District made a bone headed decision. They based their district boundaries on race.

LMSD redistricting consultant says race was a consideration
http://mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2010/04/12/main_line_times/news/doc4bc33f9779bc4142256895.txt

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#328996 - 04/20/10 12:42 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: onlyakid]
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This pretty messed up. Total invasion of privacy. Who could come up with an idea like this?


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#329043 - 04/20/10 11:02 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: ericc]
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One has to say the District was at a minimum criminally reckless as to producing child porn. That there were no inappropriate photos produced out of 56,000 images is just bull. For one thing, Blake was shown in his bed sleeping at 5pm. Pictures taken every 15 minutes. Any guesses what a teenage boy was doing at 4:45 that would make him sleepy at 5pm? Of course, the LMSD is very forthcoming and will be completely transparent.

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#329059 - 04/20/10 12:51 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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56,000 images... it just blows my mind that the indepenent investigator would "believe" for 1 second that there where NO indecent pictures taken - just stop and think about the "facts" that we do know so far... these computers where set to take a picture every 15 minutes once the software was turned on - we know that as fact - now... put yourself as a teen into that pic of the sleeping boy - at some point in time you are going to wake up - you are alone in your room - door closed - are you at no time in that 15 minutes between photos going to be in any form of undress or possibly even be laying on your bed masturbating the morning wood that most young teens wake up with... - it really does'nt take a rocket scientist to figure out that there are pictures missing...

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#329064 - 04/20/10 02:18 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: TJ jeff]
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Yeah, a lot of you have the same reaction that I do. I say you should let them know, in a polite manner is the most effective, that their story does not add up. Following is an email address for more information on the laptop issue. I would suggest pointing out, as I have, that this is not believable.

info@lmsd.org

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#329095 - 04/20/10 10:05 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Somebody needs to go to jail for this.


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#329183 - 04/21/10 12:37 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: Sir Vyver]
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The IT employee who wouldn't let her computer be searched and pleaded the 5th Admendment to avoid incriminating herself by answering questions now says that the boy didn't have an expectation of privacy because he wasn't supposed to take the laptop home.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/21/laptops-spying-students/

It looks to me that this women likes spying on high school students.

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#329620 - 04/24/10 05:46 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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The cover up begins. Usually when a judge tries to hide a hearing from anyone but the parties, bullshit is afoot.

Ban the media, no scrutiny

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#330057 - 04/28/10 12:16 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: kidneythis]
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A rational, impartial analysis

This is a pretty basic analysis of the existing law on this matter. This school district is an 800lb gorilla hanging 50 feet in the air from a 1 inch limb.

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#330755 - 05/02/10 08:26 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
kidneythis Offline


Registered: 11/08/09
Posts: 1558
An update article. Looks like the investigation report will be put out tomorrow.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20100502_Student_foresaw_Web-cam_troubles.html

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#331451 - 05/21/10 11:50 AM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: catfish86]
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Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 260
I grew up near this town. This sickens me. Some people need to be in jail....


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#334179 - 06/19/10 04:36 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: traillius]
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Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 109
Loc: Canada
bunch of criminals.

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#334182 - 06/19/10 06:20 PM Re: School Take Secret Pics of Students(Trigger) [Re: Pattycakes]
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Here's a link to several stories. I haven't read them all but the report seems to mainly blame the IT staff. It claims there was no nudity in any of the photos.

EDIT: Apparently I forgot to paste the link. OOPS

http://search.philly.com/?cat=site&q=LMSD



Edited by kidneythis (06/20/10 09:18 PM)
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#336348 - 07/19/10 02:14 PM Lower Merion School District
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Sorry I couldn't find the existing thread to add this to. Here is an update of the current status of things.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_...cam_policy.html

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#336373 - 07/19/10 10:16 PM Re: Lower Merion School District [Re: kidneythis]
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This just gets curiouser and curiouser. I can see Johny Depp being cast as an IT person for the school district as we speak. Of course the IT guys hired by the school district found all of the pictures taken and NONE of the 58,000 images caught a student in a "salacous" moment. The report paid for by the district tells us that nothing wrong was done. Why am I reminded of Obi Wan Kenobi and a weak minded storm trooper on the planet Tatooine?

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#336410 - 07/20/10 11:36 AM Re: Lower Merion School District [Re: catfish86]
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The force is strong in you my brother.

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