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#395383 - 04/28/12 11:21 PM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
starving.soul Offline
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I have been meaning to post this for some time, and finally gave it the final read through....

but today would have been his 37th birthday.

happy birthday oliver!

(you are missed and loved).

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#395395 - 04/29/12 12:30 AM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
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Edited by lapchinj (03/17/13 06:38 PM)
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#395410 - 04/29/12 02:11 AM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
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Hi (((Jo))),
I've just spot this thread and I must say that my heart is breaking while reading about Liri.
So sad story frown
I went shortly through all thread and saw that Pufferfish has posted some Liri's art and poetry. Anyway by reading other stuff I saw Rob's remark about Liri and some his thoughts in thread Our Secret Doors (see page 9 there):
http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=218883&page=15

Here are Liri's words from that thread:
"didn't know who I was.
I didn't know I was born into an abusive family.
I didn't know you weren't supposed to be suicidal at 9 yrs old.
I didn't know what innocence was and I didn't know I'd lost it.
I didn't know it was unnatural to be terrorized.
I didn't understand why I was so hypersexualized.
I didn't know it was okay to be gay.
I didn't know why society hated me so much.
I didn't know my wiring had gotten crossed.
I didn't know I'd end up in a psych ward by age 17.
I didn't know I could have escaped if I'd tried.
I didn't know that it was okay to love my life.
I didn't know there were others just like me."

I'm glad that Liri has been living in your memories even you two didn't have opportunity to connect more. You did wonderful and valuable job finding all about Liri and other family members by discovering secrets. Use that knowledge for some good cause as much as possible. In that respect please consider to share with your cousins story about Liri and his life here. Even some of your cousins don't look like interested it could be more than helpfull for some of them to find his full story. You've said that if they wish they could find it. I agree with you but sometimes human beings live more like day dreaming not being aware of important things happening around. So please consider it, there are many many valuable lessons in his story that couldn't being heard in your family, I must say this is very important. His tragedy and unfortunate fate could bring some good things and change some aspects of your family culture/dynamics among new generation - and that is really matter.
Be well!
Pero

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#395449 - 04/29/12 10:22 AM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
starving.soul Offline
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Pero-

Thank you for your words. I do intend to use his story for good. And to share. Many of the cousins have become far more interested in truth and openness than hiding skeletons and what is "proper" by society or religion. Oddly (and sadly) if he had been a cousin on my mother's side he probably would've been loved and accepted. The changes are already in place in my generation. But certainly need cultivation and care.

I appreciate all the love and support you (all) have given him. And also myself. I will post occasionally, as I share with family, face secrets, mixed emotions, and as I work out my other cousin's story.

Regards,

Jo

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#395515 - 04/29/12 08:47 PM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
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(and Jeff I did not mean to neglect your words either smile much appreciated. Oliver had a sometimes dark perspective on the world...and was rarely capable of voicing it with grace and beauty. if not interwoven with cut and cynicism. Allen seems (to me) among those who knew him best here. I am grateful for all that he has share with me also. One day at a time we heal, from whatever our hurts may be.

I love spring for the new life and beauty hidden everywhere, begging for attention.

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#395540 - 04/29/12 11:44 PM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
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Edited by lapchinj (03/17/13 06:38 PM)
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#395541 - 04/29/12 11:58 PM * [Re: M3]
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Edited by Smalltown80sBoy (04/28/13 05:38 PM)

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#395543 - 04/30/12 12:15 AM * [Re: M3]
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Edited by Smalltown80sBoy (04/28/13 05:38 PM)

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#395560 - 04/30/12 01:48 AM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
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Edited by lapchinj (03/17/13 06:38 PM)
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#395646 - 04/30/12 10:01 PM Re: In memory of... Liri (aka Oliver Strummer) [Re: M3]
starving.soul Offline
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I call him Liri sometimes too smile

you guys are awesome! :hugs:

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