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#319313 - 01/18/10 07:02 PM Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's
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Between 1960-1973. The county had a children's shelter on the grounds of the SOHO Geriatric Center. It opened sometime in the 50's and closed in 1981.
It had more than one name over time, EC Emergency Children's Shelter, EC Center for Abused and Abandoned Children are two I know of.
I am looking to connect with others who were there, hopefully when I was, from say 63-67. Even if it was before or after I'd like to talk as I've not been able to talk about it with anyone who was there, and exchange remembrences.
I endured most of the abuse I talk about while I was there.

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#329616 - 04/24/10 04:21 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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No one even nearby huh?

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#333199 - 06/07/10 02:46 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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The place is in Belleville. The Hospital is now the Garden State Cancer Center or Treatment Center.
Anyone? Did you work there or know someone who did?

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#336412 - 07/20/10 12:02 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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The buildings out back of the Hospital itself where the Shelter officially was have been demolished and condo's have been built but two of the large buildings along Carpenter Street are still there.
This hospital was used in "A beautiful Mind" as the mental hospital. That front entrance is the place that was the first memory that my life had always started from until I began to remember what took place inside and on the grounds of that place.

Is anyone here who know's this place yet?

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#336414 - 07/20/10 12:10 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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I feel for you kidneythis...I hope you find someone.
I reconnected with my cousin this past year and it is so affirming just to know someone else gets the reality of what happend to you in that place and time.

hang in there.... it takes time.

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#336442 - 07/21/10 12:23 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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Originally Posted By: kidneythis
This hospital was used in "A beautiful Mind" as the mental hospital.


I saw that movie. What a desolate looking place.

Allen





Edited by pufferfish (07/21/10 03:14 PM)

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#336464 - 07/21/10 10:28 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: pufferfish]
kidneythis Offline


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Hi Allen,
I've made a photo I found of the front of the hospital into my avatar.
Those trees weren't there when I was.

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#336465 - 07/21/10 10:37 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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Let me try this again as the avatar wasn't showing then it did when I sent a pm.

EDIT: Nope nuttin I can see. PM me if you want to see a pic of the hospital I guess. It shows up as my avatar when I pm.



Edited by kidneythis (07/21/10 10:44 AM)
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#336472 - 07/21/10 11:34 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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kidneythis,

I'm very sorry you were treated so badly and sent to that place.

Allen

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Edited by pufferfish (07/21/10 03:13 PM)

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#336477 - 07/21/10 12:20 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: pufferfish]
kidneythis Offline


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Allen,
That hospital was built as a Tuberculosis Isolation Hospital. When I was in the Shelter which was out back in the old Nurses quarters and separate from the hospital by a good distance it was the County Geriatric Hospital and on the upper floors there was a ward for mentally challenged children. 4th floor I think.

Thanks,
KT

PS I never saw the movie A Beautiful Mind, I got that reference to it being used on a website about old buildings



Edited by kidneythis (07/22/10 12:11 PM)
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#336617 - 07/23/10 11:32 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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Hi. I signed up for this forum today when I saw this feed. When in 73 did the shelter close? I ask because I was there in 73. My grandparents finally rescued my sister and I in October of 73. We were there for 2 months so we must've been "admitted" in August sometime.

Although I don't remember outright physical abuse, I remember emotional and verbal abuse and I also remember being threatened with physical violence. I was only 5 at the time so I'm careful about my memories. The mind of a 5 year old is limitless in it's imagination but there are things I remember distinctly and clearly. My time at that shelter scarred me in many ways. I found some other sites where this is discussion of the abuse as well...
My heart goes out to you and I hope you find peace...


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#336625 - 07/23/10 12:53 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: Freya]
kidneythis Offline


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HI Freya,

You are the first person in years to tell me they knew of the place. The other two disappeared quickly after I started to ask them questions.
The Shelter closed in 1981. By then it was the Essex County Center for Abused and Abandoned Children.

I see you are blocking PM's I should have sent one before I clicked to see when you joined. Can you please PM me and tell me what other sites are discussing the Shelter?



Edited by kidneythis (07/23/10 12:55 PM)
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#336626 - 07/23/10 01:10 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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Hi there,

Here is what I found...if the link doesn't work, please let me know...I'm not familiar with this site at all, just found you when googling about the shelter and found this other feed as well...I too have never found anyone who had been there or who even believed me when I spoke of how horrible it was...I was only 5 but I've always known I wasn't crazy or embellishing or making it up...
Here's the link:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-jersey/29253-question-about-belleville-2.html
Good luck!!!


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#336630 - 07/23/10 01:29 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: Freya]
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Edited by kidneythis (07/31/10 01:44 PM)
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#336635 - 07/23/10 02:27 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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Oh sorry about that, it was the first time I ever saw it...I don't know anybody else. My sister and I kept largely to ourselves...until they split us apart, put us in seperate rooms. I saw your picture. Funny thing is, I don't have much recollection of the hospital...I remember driving up to the shelter, I remember the fence. I remember going in and having to see a nurse for some kind of health check up. The nurse was HORRIBLE. My loud, aggressive mother, just sat there quietly with her head bowed as this nurse physically abused my sister and screamed at both of us. I have only a vague recollection of how things looked from the outside but a very vivid of how things looked inside looking out the windows. I suppose that's not to strange. I wished everyday that someone would come rescue us. My grandparents finally did. I know the hospital is still there but what about the shelter itself?? Do you know?


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#336637 - 07/23/10 02:45 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: Freya]
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Edited by kidneythis (07/31/10 01:45 PM)
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#336642 - 07/23/10 03:41 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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First, I'm sorry to you too. I have lots of memories...we were definitely placed there. My mother was a practicing alcoholic and much more concerned with keeping her boyfriend than she was taking care of my little sister and I. My father was getting remarried and my step mother told me years later that she had given him an ultimatum, his kids or her, she didn't want a ready made family. I have three children, have struggled financially, you name it but it never occurred to me to abandon my children. I still hurt over that.
But when the state deemed my mother unworthy and my father refused us...the state placed us there.
The very first day, as I said above, we had to have a check up of sorts. My sister was scared because the nurse decided she needed a vaccination and my sister ran for it. The nurse grabbed her by the arm and yanked her back, calling her a brat. She rammed that needle into her. That's when I realized we weren't playing around, this was not going to be a walk in the park. My sister and I had been handed around quite a bit but always to friends who meant well and tried to take good care of us. I had a snoopy with me, I'd had him since birth. They stole him in the middle of the night and laughed at me and teased me the next morning when I cried for him. My sister and I were white and made fun of for that. A little black girl ripped up a bunch of construction paper and put it under my pillow, then told on me and I had to sit in a room for hours getting screamed at and them trying to get me to admit I'd done it. I never did cave. My father brought my sister and I Barbie dolls when he came one time and they were taken from us as soon as he left. They were given to other children and we had to watch them play wtih our dolls. We were told if we ever told our parents, they would kill us. I refused to eat my pea soup one time and I sat at the table all night and much of the next day while other the kids came and went and ate fresh meals, I sat there with my pea soup. I was hit in the head with a hose one time when the staff told us we were going swimming and instead hosed us down like concentration camp victims...I spoke up and told them this is NOT swimming. I hid under the beds all the time and would go pray they couldn't find me...I got sick of getting hit upside the head and made fun of. My little sister jumped off her bed and hit her head, hurting herself badly and they told my parents I had done it to her. Luckily, my mother was well aware of my sisters swan dives off the bed and they weren't allowed to get away with that one although it didn't mean we got out either but they seperated us after that and we weren't even allowed to talk to each other.
Unfortunately, I don't have a computer at home right now, mine crashed so I won't be on at all this weekend (shame on me, I'm at work right now) but I am so sorry for all you went through and I hope you have found some resolution and some peace in your heart. You didn't deserve what was done to you. I wish you tons of comfort!!!!


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#336647 - 07/23/10 04:30 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: Freya]
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Edited by kidneythis (07/31/10 01:45 PM)
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#336705 - 07/24/10 10:58 AM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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the hospital where my wife was abused doesn't exist anymore either. it's not too far from belleville. we weren't even alive in the 60's or 70's though.

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#336732 - 07/24/10 05:26 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: CruxFidelis]
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Edited by kidneythis (07/31/10 01:46 PM)
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#336733 - 07/24/10 05:28 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: CruxFidelis]
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The hospital is still ther it's my avatar. The shelter was behind the hospital in the building that used to house the nurseing staff and other's. That area was spare back in the 30's when it was built and social mores' didn't allow for single women to be living alone. They were in a dorm like setting with chaperone's.

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#374213 - 11/03/11 10:47 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: kidneythis]
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I joined this forum because I saw your post while surfing the web, and I couldn't believe it! (sorry, I'm actually a female, and I notice that this site is for males, but I was a kid there too). I was there in 1971-1972, and I have so many strange memories of the place. I was 6 when I was there, but I was in the school, I believe it was called the Garden School. I grew up in a neighboring community,but I was targeted by the special ed people there to need to attend a "special school". I was bused there every day, and returned home every night. It took my parents a long time to believe what I told them, and when they finally did, they investigated, and found out that my school system was receiving state funding to send kids there. They had to threaten to sue to get me out of there. About 15 years ago I was driving around Belleville and I suddenly came upon the building and just started to panic. I had no idea why until I mentioned it to my mother and she told me that I had attended school there. I have since thought about it, and (I don't know why I didn't do this before!) I decided to surf the web to see what I could find out about this place. What I remember is being in a class with kids who rocked in corners and made funny noises, I remember it was really dirty there, I remember kids being held down, screaming, rooms where they locked you up if you did anything wrong, I remember the playground and the fence around it,I remember my favorite stuffed animal being stolen and nobody doing anything about it, I remember being told repeatedly that I was crazy, and lots more stuff that is very fuzzy. I got out of that place, back to regular school, and I grew up to become a child psychiatrist, probably in part because of what happened to me. No kid should have to go through what we all did. You guys talked about the shelter (there were shelter kids at the school, too- I remember being told that these kids were homeless, which was my first exposure to that concept) Does anyone remember the school?


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#384740 - 02/07/12 02:59 PM Re: Were you in Essex County, NJ as a child in 1960's [Re: Mcm]
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Hi Mcm

Check your private messages here.


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