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#316272 - 12/25/09 02:16 PM purpose
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Ever since, I can remember in Sunday School - I was told there is a purpose for everything.

What is the purpose of being physically alone on Christmas?

Have I failed to listen? Probably. To whom?

I am listening now. I know in the silence the heart speaks.

I am trying to understand the purpose of being alone physically today.

Any thoughts?

Donnie

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#316281 - 12/25/09 03:08 PM Re: purpose to lonleness [Re: DJsport]
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I know one thought:

I dont have to listen to the bad messages and know I still have good to give.

Donnie



Edited by DJsport (12/25/09 04:10 PM)
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#316294 - 12/25/09 04:19 PM Re: purpose [Re: DJsport]
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DJ,

I'm alone today too but you can look at it as not being alone since we are here on this board together. Re: that there is purpose for everything I'm not sure I believe that. Perhaps I look at it in reverse, as in its up to us to find purpose in the events that shape our lives. Just my thoughts. JS

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#316296 - 12/25/09 04:32 PM Re: purpose [Re: jls]
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Originally Posted By: jls
its up to us to find purpose in the events that shape our lives


JLS

Exactly what I needed to hear.

Life even as a baby or a kid is about finding purpose. And when the csa or the sa or the neglect of parents was there it altered the purpose.

Fantastic. I get it....

What a gift to learn.

Donnie

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#316297 - 12/25/09 04:50 PM Re: purpose [Re: DJsport]
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Finding purpose is such a struggle for humans eh? It may seem silly but often when I'm trying to understand the purpose of my life I look at my cat and wonder what purpose means to him since eating, sleeping and playing appears to be all is all that is needed to make him content. I often envy animals in this way. However, this should be all that children require too so I agree with you that abuse in childhood can alter one's purpose in the way that you described. Maybe my New Year's resolution will be just that, to eat, sleep and play more rather than work, worry and wearing myself out to the point of exhaustion all the time.

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#316307 - 12/25/09 06:20 PM Re: purpose [Re: DJsport]
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Hi Donnie

Just maybe God is trying to give you the real understanding of Christmas. It is the gift of reconciliation He offers us through the divine birth of Christ. It fulfills prophecy too. Not many gathered together today understand that. To know and accept Christ is a most important decision made alone. I now know how alone I was on Christmases gone by that I shared with many people. And now serving Jesus I'm often alone physically but always connected to everyone. My 2 cents.

peace and love
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#316327 - 12/25/09 08:24 PM Re: purpose [Re: mrd]
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"It fulfills prophecy too. Not many gathered together today understand that."

Can you explain prophesy, and what you mean by none of us here understanding it? An expanation to start with would go along way.

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#316400 - 12/26/09 08:59 AM Re: purpose [Re: jls]
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jls
Prophecy tell of what will happen before it happens. The book of Revelations speaks of the future to come.
All through the Old Testament, it speaks of a savior coming to save humanity. There are many references to Jesus coming in the OT. In the NT, Luke 1:67-70 speaks of prophecy. I said not many understand what Christmas is really all about. Most think its about giving presents, big feast, and such. It is the celebration of Christ coming to save us, the other festivities are fine as long as one remembers the purpose of Christmas.

peace and love
mrd

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#316414 - 12/26/09 11:09 AM Re: purpose [Re: mrd]
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Mrd

I know Christ as my personal Lord and Savior and I have an active prayer Life. I have an extensive knowledge of the Bible. I have an extensive spiritual base.

This thread is my coming to terms with my having Christmas - physically alone. I did very well for the most part.

DJ

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#316494 - 12/26/09 09:29 PM Re: purpose [Re: DJsport]
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Donnie

When I don't understand things/ situations happening in my life, often I find it is me trying to comply with the ways of this world and God teaching me to learn and accept His way. Sometimes I get it pretty quickly, other times I don't. When I don't I pray for the understanding and then learn to wait on the Lord for the answer.

mrd

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#317032 - 12/30/09 08:56 PM Re: purpose [Re: mrd]
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Mrd

God teaching you to learn his way and what way is that? is there something that we have missed some insight that you have that no one knows about? What does this have to do with DJs being alone let alone being a survivor? If you read any of his previous posts you would know that faith and understanding is very much something he possesses. Not that he needs someone to defend him as he did for himself.

I just get highly frustrated as my abusers loved to quote the bible and hurt me telling me how forgivable they were but when I acted upon my thoughts and desires based on what they exposed me to I was unlovable, unlikable, unworthy of Gods love let alone another human beings. I am just now 30 years later figuring out they lied, and I am still trying to find a god let alone a man or person in the church that finds me worthy of sitting along side them. I sit alone today hurt frustrated sad and lonely afraid of being around others who want to dictate if i believe, how fast I am suppose to heal, how strong my faith is or if i am a person worthy of serving and being around other people.

No one else has to do it to me anymore I punish myself because I believed people like you had all the answers. Today I realize you don't because I haven't asked you the questions and based on your assumptions I am afraid I can't because it feels to me like your not ready to listen.

Sorry DJ if I took over this just hit a button or a very serious wound and I can't overlook my hurt anymore.


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#317112 - 12/31/09 04:52 AM Re: purpose [Re: glad2beme]
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Perhaps because Jesus is known as being alone and a survivor of religious persecution and torture yet we do not know of any instances of sexual abuse in His life. If so it would turn Christianity on it's head. JS



Edited by jls (12/31/09 04:55 AM)
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#317226 - 12/31/09 11:55 PM Re: purpose [Re: glad2beme]
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glad

I have faith and understanding and I never Question the faith of anyone else. However I'm human, despite my understanding of Jesus I often get caught up in my own desires which blind me to Gods purpose for my life. God through his grace has allowed me to see how something I go through, including csa, teaches me not to rely on my own wisdom, but on His. You are right you do punish yourself, but seems you want to blame me, and that's ok I do understand your feelings.
My relationship with God is between He and I. Not based on what others say or think, but on what God says in the Bible. I have and will continue to share what he teaches me, plus He has allowed me to be open to listen and learn any and every thing that life experiences convey. I just like everyone else have a choice to accept it or not. The choices we make dictate the life we lead. That why I base my choices on God's word and pray for his guidance to carry them out.

peace and love
mrd

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