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#312689 - 12/02/09 04:34 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: onlyakid]
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Registered: 03/13/09
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Since according to GA's supreme court 16 year olds are mature enough to have a relationship with an adult then they should be mature enough to appear in porn videos and when NV realizes this I guess they can work in the legal brothels too. Does this sound absurd to you? Of course, so does this ruling by the GA supreme court.


excellent point jtt5254
i completely agree this ruling by GA courts is out of touch and irresponsable.

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#312746 - 12/03/09 12:50 AM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: myboyhoodfears]
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What stuns me is this is judge made law in response to appeals by former teachers convicted of having sexual relationships with their underage students. It would be bad enough if it were a pro-active ruling, let alone one that appears to condone predatory behaviour by actual predators. What was going thru these teacher's minds anyways? Let's just forget for a minute that we're talking about kids here. Even with adults do people go to their doctor with the expectation that there may be sex involved? Do clients go to their therapist beleiving that is OK for she or he to recieve sexual gratification from them? Even myself, I work with homeless people and would never dream of using my power and authority in that position to seek sex with such a vulnerable population. JS

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#312773 - 12/03/09 07:02 AM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: jls]
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Question, rhetorical if you wish- if your brother has sex with a girl, and she consents to it, yet he's 32 and she's 17, is he a pedophile, hebephile, of a horny boyfriend?

It's she's of legal age and he consents, then there was no rape or sexual assault.


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#312809 - 12/03/09 01:08 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: LilacLouie]
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Louie,

I would say in that instance your brother is an asshole 1st and foremost and at least a little sick...I mean I've been 32 and 17 year olds definitely felt off limits in no uncertain terms. And, if nothing else outside of fulfilling some sick "barely legal" fantasy, the only other reason you'd go with someone that much younger seems to able to be the controlling partner in the relationship...which undoubtedly would be the case with a 15 year age difference at those ages. We're not talking legal issues now, just reality and people do get into unfortunate relationship dynamics.

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#312814 - 12/03/09 01:20 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: LilacLouie]
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legalities aside, i would not aprove of a 32 year old having sex with a 17 year old under ANY circumstances.



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#312836 - 12/03/09 05:44 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: LilacLouie]
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A hypothetical question: How would you or your family feel about your 32 year old brother bringing a 17 year old girl home to dinner, announcing that she was his girlfriend? Conversely, if she were your sister and brought home a 32 year old man how would you feel about this? Subjectively I can't understand how anyone in their 20's 30's or older can justify a relationship with an underage teenager. They can't drink, smoke, vote, rent an apartment without a co-signer, travel out of the country without their parent's permission or even see an R rated movie for god's sake so what basis is there for a relationship, besides sex? In this way I call it predatory. JS

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#312848 - 12/03/09 07:53 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: jls]
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Well said......

I do not want my son or daughter to be with one more or less than 5 years different.

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#312862 - 12/03/09 09:09 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: DJsport]
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#312866 - 12/03/09 10:21 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: jbh8]
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i would disagree,...im pretty sure that statistics show that the larger the age gap the less likely the relationship will last, while there maybe some exceptions, its not the norm,....the few historical accounts of large age discrepent relationships that were considered "the best" as you put it,...are not likely based on reality, but romatisized versions of reality...most reliable accounts of very large age descrepent relationships are not positive,...many women in the past who wrote about being being in age discrepent relationships were forced into these relationships and were not happy, which was the case with the vast majority of how these relationships occurred in the past, the parents sold thier children off to the highest bidder, no one was asked if they wanted to actually marry that 50 year old guy,..they had to...there are numerous horror stories of abuses like this that span thousands of years, we dont hear much about those beause they dont make for light reading,...the formulae that sociologists use of five years or less is based on a statisical analysis of how long these relationships last and how positive the people in these relationships feel about them....not just some random number.



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#312974 - 12/04/09 05:55 PM Re: Teacher/Student Sex? [Re: DJsport]
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I think when we are talking about disparities in age when it comes to relationships we need to focus on the stages in life that each person is in and not necessarily the age difference per se. For example, a 10 year age difference between a 25 year old and a 35 year old would not and shouldn't be frowned upon in the least. However, if it were between a 25 year old and a 15 year old then this is a very different story. Food for thought: how about a 5 year old and a 15 year old? Obviously everyone here would find that abhorent, yet when it comes to underage teenagers there is sometimes a tendency to treat them like full fledged adults capable of consenting to sex with adults when they are not. Just my thoughts. JS

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