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#304103 - 09/24/09 11:36 PM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: melliferal]
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Originally Posted By: melliferal
Originally Posted By: Barkabus
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That kid was expressing his PARENTS' opinion about a politician, not his own.

How do you happen to know what this kid's opinion is?


Think the boy spotted that t-shirt while shopping with his parents at the Super K-Mart and begged them to get it for him? Come on.


Not even slightly outside the realm of possibility.

I was 4 when my abuse started.
I became hyper vigilant and watched the whole world.
I was 10 years old when the Watergate scandal went down and developed a very strident opinion about the whole matter, as well as other issues of the time.

My opinions didn't always tend to fit well with my parent's opinions.

Do not assume that the young either have no opinion or poorly informed opinions.



Edited by MrEdd (09/24/09 11:37 PM)
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#304134 - 09/25/09 07:46 AM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: GoFigure12]
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Originally Posted By: GoFigure12
they'll teach him to be a nice, obedient servant to the new world order.


I respect everyone's opinion; but unfortunately, right there is where I stop taking you seriously.

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#304138 - 09/25/09 08:32 AM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: melliferal]
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I want to get involved in these discussions, wrote a post and have now deleted all my text, because I really don't want to get all negative here.

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Edited by sono (09/25/09 11:42 AM)
Edit Reason: I won't let myself do political discourse here!!!!! I mean it this time!
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#304172 - 09/25/09 01:42 PM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: sono]
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We elected a smooth talking lefty lawyer 12 years ago, he fucked up the country with much of the same tactics here, especially the dismissal of any immigration discussions as "racism" - as aimed at any critic of Obama.

Having said that, Blair's strategy of ruining state schooling whilst sending their own kids to religious and private schools, the Labour party's done that for 50 years.

If education's going too far left in America, hopefully a few class action lawsuits should pull it back the other way or at least the middle, if there's no other resort left.



Edited by ComicBookGuy (09/25/09 01:43 PM)
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#304233 - 09/25/09 08:11 PM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: ComicBookGuy]
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What's negative about civil discourse?

It's been a while, but ONCE in a while in the course of my discussions with other people, I hear of something that I never heard of before, and it sparks my interest, and I look into it. It helps me grow.

It's hard for me to recall details, but I think political/social discussion is healthy for all of us.

Why? Well, for me, it HELPS me to define WHO I AM. It HELPS me to realize that I'm different, I have a different world view than most contemporary or prevailing views on any given subject, and I make points that I feel deserve to be made, and...........I guess that what I'm getting at is that I'm trying to find ME in these posts..........I'm trying to find that REAL ME that I never had a chance to grow and develop into.

You guys hear my rants on here.......some of you enjoy them, some of you dismiss them, and some of you never read them because you have more pressing interests but..........I'll tell you this............I would have been a most interesting man had I been allowed to grow in a healthy, safe, nurturing environment. Its a pity to see what little I could salvage out of this wreck of a life.



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#304245 - 09/25/09 11:16 PM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: Hauser]
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Hey Hauser,

Civil discourse isn't negative in and of itself...I get negative and that's not what I want here. If we were gonna meet in a bar or coffee shop and have a good debate...yeah, that would be one thing, but I'm just too raw when I'm here...I'm like a moth drawn to a flame though when certain things come up in the active topics. But I swear this is the last time I'll let myself be tempted...it's bad for my recovery!!! lol

sono

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#304259 - 09/26/09 04:40 AM . [Re: melliferal]
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#304265 - 09/26/09 08:25 AM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: GoFigure12]
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Originally Posted By: GoFigure12
Sorry Mel, I don't think that's the point where you stopped respecting my opinion. I've known you for what, going on 4 years now.... I think you stopped respecting my opinion as soon as you disagreed with it.


So then in order to respect someone's opinion, you must agree with it? No other way? If that's the case, be satisfied with mere "tolerance".



Edited by melliferal (09/26/09 08:25 AM)
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#304272 - 09/26/09 10:45 AM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: Hauser]
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i don't know the relationship dynamics in this particular family, but all i have to say about the topic in general is that parent who try to shape their kids into mini-me's sicken me.

bleh!

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#304280 - 09/26/09 11:51 AM Re: Boy Suspended for Wearing Anti-Obama T-Shirt [Re: Sans Logos]
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personally i see nothing wrong with a kid waring a tee-shirt like that whether its his opinion or his parents...since we are all products of our upbringing...if it were a similar Bush tee-shirt we would be patting him on the back...saying how much guts it took for him to ware it...we may not like peoples politics but trying to silence them is just as problematic if the shoe is on the other foot...

i wonder how many Cindy Sheehans out there sent thier kids to school with teeshirts that were against the Bushies, and no one complained about it one bit....but besides that...why is it wrong to send a kid to school with a political teeshirt on...we control every aspect of thier lives...when they can eat...what time they go to bed...what sports they are allowed to play, who their friends are,..ect etc....and what cloths they ware...so to say that a parent shouldn't use their kids to make political statements, seems to be over-reaching a bit...we use them for advertizements all the time...(how many kids ware tee shirts with product advertizemnets printed on them...quite a lot)...and the two are morally equivolent.

if the teeshirt had said "i love obama" would he have gotten suspended then?...isnt that a political statement influenced by his parents as well?...why would that be ok and the "anti" shirt isnt?



Edited by myboyhoodfears (09/26/09 11:53 AM)
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