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#299506 - 08/16/09 10:45 AM Hell's Kitchen
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So, I watch this show Hell's Kitchen on Tuesday nights. In fact, I've watched the past couple seasons. I like the show, but sometimes it gets so rude and annoying when Chef Ramsey uses SOO much profanity ALL THE TIME!!

Anyone else watch it? If so, what do you think of it?

J.R.

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#299507 - 08/16/09 11:03 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: J.R.]
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ive watched it on and off since it first aired,....i do get annyoyed to by chef Ramseys profanity...seems unessicary to be honest, ill change it when he gets on my nerves,...but i kinda like the concept anyway....probably if he were nicer then the show wouldnt be as fun to watch and would do as well, i guess...at least i think thats the mentality of the producers.

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#299509 - 08/16/09 11:10 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: myboyhoodfears]
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Yes, you are probably right, the show wouldn't be the same without the attitude and profanity of Chef Ramsey. However, personally, I think that is sad; the success of a show lies in the hands of someone who profanes anything and everything.

I applied to culinary school last year, in fact was accepted, but at the time couldn't afford it. Now, after watching the show, I don't even know if I want to try going to school if being a Chef is what I watch on TV.

J.R.

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#299513 - 08/16/09 11:22 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: J.R.]
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#299516 - 08/16/09 11:40 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: J.R.]
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i love that show , u fn donkey!!! man if i ever went there to do that contest and hed yell at me like that id probably cry like a girl i hate being yelled at lol

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#299518 - 08/16/09 11:46 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: myboyhoodfears]
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My kids watch HK too... my one son likes it and the other hates it... I have opened some discussion with all of my children around how he is abusive. Part of the discussion is that it is exagerated for television and part is that it is still abuse and should we really be supporting it ??? The discussion continues :-)

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As I read this thread I could not think about how I was drawn to people places and things that related to re-enacting my abuses and how Hell's Kitchen is another place where I see abuse that I can relate to :-\

well, that thought is incomplete... C'est la vie.

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#299523 - 08/16/09 01:13 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: J.R.]
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I used to watch Hell's Kitchen. But, like the many other shows, its so predictable. People will rant and rave about a team member. Then that team member gets a few seconds rebuttal. Then they have to cook, and Ramsey goes ape-shit all over one, or a bunch of people. The audience looks around, trying to look interested in the meal. All hell breaks loose, and someone has a meltdown. Then, like in that weakest link show, someone gets the boot.

Are people that expendable that we become entertained when they are rejected?

No more reality shows for me, unless they are compelling, and tell a story of some importance. Watching people being abused? Pass.

Jim

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#299538 - 08/16/09 03:11 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: Geeders]
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I've watched it a few times, the uk version when that used to be on, i didn't really like it very much.

I prefer the one where he goes in to make failing restaurants better, i think that was filmed in america too.

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#299663 - 08/17/09 01:49 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: Geeders]
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Originally Posted By: Geeders
I used to watch Hell's Kitchen.

Ramsey goes ape-shit

All hell breaks loose, and someone has a meltdown.

Are people that expendable that we become entertained when they are rejected?



Yeah! I like your comments, Jim. R_ reminds me of my abuser at the boy scout camp (pufferfish story no. 5 - do not read it).

Imagine him as in charge of a bunch of boy scouts. He chooses to pick on one. He uses all of his abuse and invective against one boy - that would be me. Imagine the effect on a boy of 12 away from home. Then couple it with CSA for 2 weeks and you've got the picture.

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#299818 - 08/18/09 07:34 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: pufferfish]
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I used to watch this show, but don't anymore.

I think Chef Ramsey is an arrogant pompous a**.

I would however, gladly like to see this guy at an ultimate fighting contest.

In fact, I would volunteer to fight him. Let's see where his mouth gets him then...


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Edited by 1islandboy (08/18/09 08:00 PM)
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#299831 - 08/18/09 10:27 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: 1islandboy]
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Originally Posted By: 1islandboy
I used to watch this show, but don't anymore.

I think Chef Ramsey is an arrogant pompous a**.

I would however, gladly like to see this guy at an ultimate fighting contest.

In fact, I would volunteer to fight him. Let's see where his mouth gets him then...


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island


Thanks island,

I guess I still have anger.

You do better than I do in expressing it.

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#299845 - 08/19/09 12:25 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: 1islandboy]
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I used to be a professional cook. And if Ramsey ever treated me like he does those folks, I'm not sure who I'd put in the oven- him or the beef ribs.


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#299849 - 08/19/09 01:06 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: LilacLouie]
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Louie,

I love it. Thank you.

Allen

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#299855 - 08/19/09 01:29 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: pufferfish]
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Puffer,

Funny you should mention anger, as I tend to bottle it all up and am horrible in expressing it.

As far as I am concerned the kitchen is an awful place for high drama....There are knives, hot oil and all sorts of nasties around there.

In my opinion, this is not a culinary of fine arts way to turn out a good chef.

I'm just glad, I have the option of changing the channel, this type of bullying tends to make me feel psychotic.


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#299965 - 08/20/09 03:11 AM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: 1islandboy]
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Back when we had the Dish Network my wife and I used to enjoy Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares which was on the BBC. He used to go to all of these unsuccessful restaurants mostly in Great Britain and try to whip them back into shape. One of my favorite episodes was when he re-did some restaurant that looked like an old church somewhere in the UK where they were serving some senior citizen's buffet and not doing a very good job of it. He got to yell pretty loud and profane in that episode.

Yes, Ramsey is a bit profane, though nothing that I haven't heard before in the meat business in Chicago, Cleveland, or Detroit, or at many of the big factories there too. Perhaps they could do different feeds of the same show and make up some corny cuss words to replace his usual fare. Remember the sanitized TV version of the movie Repo Man, where they were calling the Mexican repo men "melon farmers"??? Something like that so that everyone could enjoy it.

There are definitely a lot of lousy restaurants out there!!!

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#301384 - 09/02/09 08:42 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: Trucker51]
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The contestants in Hell's Kitchen are just that - contestants, vying for a prize, having to overcome some adversity in order to do so. Think of the old show "American Gladiators", where the competitors run strenuous courses while 400-pounds-of-pure-muscle behemoths slam them in the head with pugil sticks and mattresses and shoot them with high-velocity tennis balls and what-not. The idea of that show was that the atheletes had to survive enormous stress in order to overcome and win the competition.

It's the same thing with Hell's Kitchen - Ramsey's mouth is his pugil stick, and the contestants are repeatedly battered with it until they either fall off the pedestal or win. The players actually know and expect what Ramsey is like and agree to try it out anyway, so I'm less inclined to dismiss Ramsey's show as sending the wrong message. He's an ass, yeah, but he's hardly the worst obstacle people have ever had to endure in order to win a contest.

That said, Ramsey's attitude is spectacle, for the show, and he gets away with it because it's his restaurant and the players sign releases. I'm pretty sure your average restaurant's atmosphere is leagues more professional than that. If somebody screamed at his staff in a real restaurant the way Ramsey does on his show, the customers would become offended and leave.

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#301391 - 09/02/09 09:18 PM Re: Hell's Kitchen [Re: LilacLouie]
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Originally Posted By: LilacLouie
I used to be a professional cook. And if Ramsey ever treated me like he does those folks, I'm not sure who I'd put in the oven- him or the beef ribs.


We were watching a show about Hansel and Gretel, you know the one where the wicked witch gets thrown into the oven she'd prepared for Hansel. The entire audience broke out in cheers and clapping. laugh

Allen

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