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#296653 - 07/24/09 12:32 PM Re: do you pray? [Re: Sans Logos]
mapleleafsn Offline
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Registered: 11/03/08
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The gift of music is pure joy. When words are spoken or read their full impact can be glanced over and sometimes unheard. However when accompanied by music the full impact can be understood.

I have found this to be a great part of my journey. The emotions and feelings are stirred with music. I find myself to be very concious of lyrics lately. Finding the deeper meaning and thoughts the writer has placed before me while I listen.

steve

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#296771 - 07/25/09 02:10 PM Re: do you pray? [Re: mapleleafsn]
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Originally Posted By: mapleleafsn
The gift of music is pure joy. When words are spoken or read their full impact can be glanced over and sometimes unheard. However when accompanied by music the full impact can be understood.


I relate to this on several levels.

I read Psalms nearly every day. Of course the Psalms are Hebrew songs of praise (some of them). I find the Psalms directing my mind and heart toward God. There are numerous psalms which address the problems of CSA survivors. My mind and heart are able to be nourished by these truths.

"God is our refuge and strength,
an ever-present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear,
though the earth give way"
Psalm 46:1,2

In my anguish I cried to the Lord,
and he answered by setting me free.

I was pushed back and about to fall,
but the Lord helped me.
The Lord is my strength and my song;
he has become my salvation.
Psalm 118: 5, 13,14.

Allen


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#297004 - 07/27/09 08:09 AM Re: do you pray? [Re: pufferfish]
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allen,

thank you for those. i couldn't resist looking them up in the message text, and expanding a bit:

psalm 42: 1-3 -->>>>
God is a safe place to hide, ready to help when we need him.
We stand fearless at the cliff-edge of doom,
courageous in seastorm and earthquake,
Before the rush and roar of oceans,
the tremors that shift mountains.

psalm 188: 5-21 -->>>>
Pushed to the wall, I called to God;
from the wide open spaces, he answered.
God's now at my side and I'm not afraid;
who would dare lay a hand on me?
God's my strong champion;
I flick off my enemies like flies.
Far better to take refuge in God
than trust in people;
Far better to take refuge in God
than trust in celebrities.
Hemmed in by barbarians,
in God's name I rubbed their faces in the dirt;
Hemmed in and with no way out,
in God's name I rubbed their faces in the dirt;
Like swarming bees, like wild prairie fire, they hemmed me in;
in God's name I rubbed their faces in the dirt.
I was right on the cliff-edge, ready to fall,
when God grabbed and held me.
God's my strength, he's also my song,
and now he's my salvation.
Hear the shouts, hear the triumph songs
in the camp of the saved?
"The hand of God has turned the tide!
The hand of God is raised in victory!
The hand of God has turned the tide!"

17-20 I didn't die. I lived!
And now I'm telling the world what God did.
God tested me, he pushed me hard,
but he didn't hand me over to Death.

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#297513 - 07/30/09 11:39 PM Re: do you pray? [Re: Sans Logos]
petercorbett Offline
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Registered: 07/27/08
Posts: 2451
Loc: TEXAS
Hi, my fraternal brothers,

Well it's almost one year since little Pete decided to reminding big Pete about some long buried memories of his childhood.

It has been one hell of a year, and a wild rollercoaster of a ride of our emotions.

I/we have made up a plan of what we want to try and accomplish on our journey.

This month we concentrated on our spirituality. (Or lack there of). Little Pete & I have decided to stay with the religion of our birth, and our survival.

All this, after during the last year in trying to come to terms with our complete range of abuse, sexually, emotionally, physically and mentally, from the very person whom made the post "Trusting God No Longer (HIS Mother too). Then God's answer to little & big Pete. And us joining the locl Catholic parish. We both fully know that we cannot participate fully in the sacraments of the church. That's ok with us.

But what we could do, and we just did, was to maake an offering to have 4 Masses, dedicated to Sexually Abused Boys. And the dates of these Masses are.. 6, 10, 12 & 13 August.

Being little Pete & big Pete don't have eloquent words, or vast amounts of wisdom to offer my fraternal brothers here on the MS web site.

Maybe these Masses will suffice. These are for all of us, no matter what religion that you do or not profess.

Other than little Pete & big Pete's compassion, understanding and love and (yes) prayers, is all that we really posess. Unconditionally.

Heal well my brothers, my family, my friends.

"I will take that lost boys hand, and I will lead him from the depths of darkness, into the sunshine, forever to eternity.

Little Pete & big Pete,,but 1 (Irishmoose)

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May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#297515 - 07/30/09 11:56 PM Re: do you pray? [Re: petercorbett]
LilacLouie Offline


Registered: 07/02/09
Posts: 359
Loc: Utah
Yeah I pray. Sometimes I wonder if He even listens to me.


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#297540 - 07/31/09 03:44 AM Re: do you pray? [Re: LilacLouie]
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Registered: 07/22/09
Posts: 18
Loc: Pacific Northwest
I pray. I pray in the morning. I pray before I sleep. I pray anywhere in between. I pour out my heart. I'm not very good at gratitude. It passed me by somewhere and I've never managed to get back to it, though I try sometimes. My prayers are almost in my mind, because I'm not alone all that much. I say the things that are worrying me. I say the things that are bothering me. I say the things I need. I say the things I want. I say the things my family needs. I sort through things. I discover things. I learn things. I feel things. I pray for many reasons, but in the end I pray because of how I feel when I do it.

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#297555 - 07/31/09 09:23 AM Re: do you pray? [Re: Hopeful1]
Sans Logos Offline
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beautiful hopeful. formal prayer ritualizes it in a sense, but it's all the times in between where i deeply sense my bond with THE PRESENCE always guiding and guarding the temperature of my life.

all the best,

ron

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#297563 - 07/31/09 10:09 AM Re: do you pray? [Re: Sans Logos]
cstjude Offline
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Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 302
Loc: Canada
Good question. Lovely posts. I understand the search for a connection to the numinous. But I don't pray. Reasons why are covered elsewhere. smile

C.

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#297653 - 07/31/09 11:32 PM Re: do you pray? [Re: cstjude]
LilacLouie Offline


Registered: 07/02/09
Posts: 359
Loc: Utah
When I pray, I ask Him for help. And sometimes I "hear" Him say "No".


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#297660 - 08/01/09 01:01 AM Re: do you pray? [Re: LilacLouie]
JustScott Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 2589
One thing I pray...

I ask that God do whatever and bring whatever is needed to make me who He wants me to be.

Sounds simple. Yet I know there are many painful things that have come into my life after asking that. It hurts. It tears me apart. It breaks me into more and more pieces.

I also know that each time I grow more and those things change me and draw me closer and closer to the one who made me, and closer to who He wants me to be.

Scares me each time the thought to pray such is laid on my heart.


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