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#295658 - 07/17/09 01:37 PM Does anyone speak "Palin"? :)
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Ok, I'm a little behind the current events, but whoa - can someone tell me what the Governor is talking about here? What is she trying to communicate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACKm0AwStA8

I have been watching the phenomenon that is Governor Palin since the McCain running mate announcement with some meaure of fascination. But I'm mystified by this announcement.

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#295660 - 07/17/09 02:09 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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#295661 - 07/17/09 02:13 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: myboyhoodfears]
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Yes, those are statements of facts. But what about the "why"? She obviously was intending to communicate something beyond the facts with the ramblings. What is she getting at? Otherwise, she would have issued a statement to the press and nothing more.

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#295675 - 07/17/09 03:23 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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#295924 - 07/19/09 04:57 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: myboyhoodfears]
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My guess is she's resigning either because there are family problems or she's running for president. Personally, if it was family problems she would have resigned when her child became pregnant.


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#295932 - 07/19/09 06:16 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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Jude!

Does anyone speak Palin?
ROFLMAO!!!!! laugh

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#295935 - 07/19/09 06:36 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Geeders]
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Sarah had lots of problems going on in Alaska. There have been several big scandals during her administration and several of her closest cronies have had to resign and a couple have been indicted for official misconduct too. First she had to pay back the State Treasury there for all of the plane trips that the State paid for her children to take, then she comes down here and Letterman has her for lunch. I can't see how anyone thinks that she is President material if she can't take a little ribbing out of the NYC media. Imagine how well that would play out over time?

The Anchorage Daily News has lots of dirt on Sarah and her cronies if you want to look through their back issues.

www.adn.com

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#295945 - 07/19/09 07:54 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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I doubt she would be able to handle being president.


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#295951 - 07/19/09 08:22 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Anna1988]
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I agree. However, she seems to be held up as the great hope of the Republican party nonetheless. I have great respect for American patriotism as it can be a force for unity and a rallying point for a sense of purpose. But, I'm sorry to say, Mrs. Palin's communication style when discussing those ideals does her a disservice. She must have some talents that led to reasonable Alaskans electing her to such high office. But she comes off as being about the soundbite (one example "only dead fish go with the flow" ????) instead of the substance.

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#295990 - 07/19/09 11:51 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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My guess is that Mitt Romney holds the future of the Republicans in 2012 in his hands. I believe that Sarah is about cooked politically, even though some percentage of the Republican Party memberships seems to be fixated on her at present. At least Romney has plenty of experience dealing with big-city media as the former Governor of Massachusetts. His father was also Governor of Michigan at one time too, so he has that background in his blood too. I can't say what led the citizens of Alaska to elect her to the office that she held there, but I do know that she has plenty of upset critics there these days.

My guess is that her choice as McCain's running mate was less based on what was known about her and more based on trying to pander to aggrieved members of the female community once the Democrats had nominated Obama rather than Hillary Clinton as their candidate. My guess is that the choice of her as McCain's running mate accelerated her departure from political office because of the sudden media exposure which it appears that she was ill-prepared to deal with.

I have to wonder why the choice of other much more experienced Republican women was not made. There were several available choices that the Republican Party could have made that would have offered much more experience than Sarah possessed. Perhaps it was because Sarah was such an unknown that McCain's people thought that they could slip her in and their choice indicates some level of naivete on the senior Republican's part over the sophistication of our modern media and our electorate to quickly root-out facts.

If you are a Republican there is always next time,

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#295992 - 07/19/09 11:57 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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#296173 - 07/20/09 10:56 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Sans Logos]
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I enjoy listening to Keith Olbermann, I think that he is good, and he seems to be a little more left-leaning than some of them. I enjoy having some degree of balance in media. He helps balance out people like Rush and Hannity.

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#296184 - 07/21/09 12:19 AM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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Thanks for the Olbermann piece.

Here's Rachel Maddows' take:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLTtT2JAYJk

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#296187 - 07/21/09 12:41 AM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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Hate to say it, but Rachel Maddow's piece makes Sarah look even further out in right field than she already was. Ethics complaints are just ruining her fun??? No Kidding??? It will save the citizens of Alaska millions of Dollars if she just steps down??? My guess is what she has said is some kind of code for there would be a lot more ethics charges to defend if she didn't step down. And already a new ethics charge has been filed charging misuse of State funds even since she announced her resignation. I wonder if she was on some kind of drug during some of those interviews, as what she said didn't make a lot of sense.

Maybe it would be better if Sarah, her husband, and kids just went fishing and stayed out of the public spotlight as much as is possible.

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#296333 - 07/22/09 12:34 AM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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I just saw this story on www.adn.com about Sarah and even more potential ethics law violations. Somebody just doesn't like Sarah up there.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/871750.html

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#296587 - 07/23/09 09:10 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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Interesting note about Romney. Do you think Huckabee has a shot?

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PS: is that a new picture? smile

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#296593 - 07/23/09 10:53 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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My "new" avatar is two years old now. I don't know about Mike Huckabee. He is popular down South but I still think that Mitt Romney has more of the kind of experience that is likely to win-over more big-city Republican voters. Poor Sarah, the ethics complaints just keep rolling in. She and her husband better pack-up and move to Tahiti!!! Or maybe take a round-the-world cruise for a while. She is in a real mess up there.

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#297499 - 07/30/09 10:13 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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"We hunt therefore we eat?" !!!????

What is she talking about? I mean, even just on a linguistic level, she doesn't make sense. Who eats wolves?

If I were the Palin family dog, I'd be a bit nervous. smile

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#297539 - 07/31/09 03:25 AM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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It sounded a little like she had had a little too much to drink. Or perhaps too much of that good mercury-laden fish that she and her kids caught. Maybe she meant that she has to eat so that is why she was fishing (hunting). She must not have heard the old adage: "When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping"!!!

Dog nervous??? I wouldn't want to be one of her kids either!!!

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#297561 - 07/31/09 10:03 AM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Trucker51]
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Too true about the kids, I fear.

Did anyone read the latest Vanity Fair article? It was quite interesting. A bit slanted to be sure, but worth a look if anyone is of a politico bent.

On another topic, I watched five minutes of some kind of cage match between Reverend Al Sharpton and Anne Coulter (yikes) last night. That was a bizarre spectacle.


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#297830 - 08/02/09 09:48 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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I bet I could speak Palin. The reason I can speak Palin is that I realized as I saw the soccer moms of America and the way they aren't just playing dead fish but,... you know, doing their soccer mom thing and I thought it's just like catching a trout or hunting a deer you just have to kick the soccer-ball in the right direction and the next thing you know there are allegations of ethics violations, and that's why I can speak Palin!

Pretty good, eh? Sometimes I wonder if she's stealing Rush's Oxycontin.

BTW, I love Oberman, and Madow is great too! My straight side has a crush on her.



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#297887 - 08/03/09 03:33 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: Jaifian]
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Oh, Doug...that was HIlarious! I'm still chuckling. smile You speak Palin very well indeed.

Rachel is my gay-side crush too! smile

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#297897 - 08/03/09 04:43 PM Re: Does anyone speak "Palin"? :) [Re: cstjude]
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I've finally taken the time to read, watch, and listen to this thread.

laugh

Thanks, everyone, for the entertainment wink

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