So, everybody does it.

Some have guilt feelings.

But:

What about unconscious (or even conscious) recapitulation of abuse feelings?

If true, then, is it common? Is it harmful?

Allen

pufferfish

Hi, my brothers in pain.

Well, now a subject that I'm an expert on. (HANDS ON).
Sorry I just couldn't turn down that remark.

From someone who has 60 yrs of experience. I offer my opinions/answers.
Line # 1. Ok I'll go aong with that starement.
Line # 2, Not a problem for me.
Line # 3, Relationships, I never was in a female relationship.
Line # 4, They have me on this one. But when I went to 2 urology appts about ED (erectile disfunction) they told me that the plumbing was ok, sperm count ok.
But the problem was psychologial, (in my head). But nobody ever asked me if I was a victim of childhood sexual abuse, which just might have caused that problem, ED.
Line # 5, Well I don't have prostate cancer, my prostate is small.
I cannot comment on those male sexual hormone levels. I never had them checked that I know of.
I started masturbating at around 8 yrs old with my male sexual agressor.
I was really into masturbating while I was in that orphanage/Home. I was MB'ing by my self every day. And I was 10 years old.
And I have never stopped since. 60 years of experience.
I have no cancer problems with MB'ing.
But I do it because, it feels good. It does not get a headache. It does not go on vacation.
It is (almost) ready when I am.
It just takes me a while longer to get that end result.

But, I will be paying the price for my years of experience.
AS masturbating is a mortal sin, in the Catholic church. So I'll be in hell with my sexual agressors "mom", Ralph & those strangers.

Heal well my brothers/friends.

Pete (Irishmoose)

Somehow I doubt that, Pete. I seriously doubt that. (((Pete)))

oh crap!!! now that was funny joel!!!patrick nomansanisland

im gonna quote Macy Gray " im gonna take a moment for myself... one for me and no one else..."

if there is shame attached to it then perhaps your doing in it tne wrong tense...

i cant see myself imagining my abuser or the whole scene.

it is a body workout and a chance to relax and give your own self some pleasure. i am thinking the rituals involved is what our libido needs to keeps going...

to keep passion for life we must have passion of self...

good thread..lol patrick

I think that in a certain sense it's true even in this, that if you can't love yourself how are you gonna be able to love anyone...

What was it that Woody Allen said about this? It's "sex with my favorite person"? Something like that. And five things about masturbation? Five?????? Only five??????

Seriously, so long as you don't do it so much that it interferes with the rest of your life it seems to me that there's not a thing in the world wrong with it. Some have religious reservations, so okay, if that's where you stand then that's fine. But there the issue is those religious precepts, not masturbation itself, which is a normal and almost universal practice.

Having been guilt-tripped by my grandmother and mother about this when I was a young teenager still being regularly abused, it makes me so angry when I talk to someone who has been victimized by guilty feelings based on dogmatic objections to something that's natural and healthy. Maybe the best response to those objections would be "Talk to the hand!"

No pun intended of course.

Much love,
Larry

Thank good ness we aren't in Indonesia. Spanking the monkey is illegal there, and IIRC the penalty is pretty severe.

MBHF

Why is it that you quote me and then go on to talk about Gay people?

For the sake of the ignorant and the unenlightened - Queer is not Gay and Gay most definitely does not like Queer.

In all respect, I would ask that you never refer to me as Gay.

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