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#29224 - 05/07/02 08:41 PM liar, liar ?
Lloydy Offline
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This weekend my friend and I met some nice people, respectable - professional people with two boys aged between 7 & 10 I would guess.
Today my friend, who knows my history and how I feel about SA told me that one of the boys told him that he gets his brother to "suck his dick" in the bath.
To me this stinks of some kind of adult influence, normal respectable kids of that age dont usually know about this kind of stuff, do they ?
I don't know what the hell to do. They say that out of the mouths of children comes the truth. Is he telling lies or the truth ? The consequences of both fill me with dread.
Any Ideas guys ?
Lloydy

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#29225 - 05/07/02 09:13 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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You did'nt mention whether it's the 7 or 10 year old making the allegation. I don't think the 7 year old is forcing the 10 year old to inhale his whang. If there's any whang gargling going on it's the 10 year old getting the suction. I advise calling Columbo. Do you get that tv show in England?
Columbo would have this cleared up in 60 minutes. Baretta could too,but he's busy now.


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#29226 - 05/08/02 01:23 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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it's the way my thinking is going, send the posse in. Wrong or right my conscience would be clear. Last night I barely slept, and it's been on my mind all day, silence is assent.
From my limited knowledge of kids most don't have this kind of information at 10, at best they have a sketchy idea that "sex" takes place between mummy and daddy and babies are born soon after. And it also strikes me as very unusual for a 10 year old to share this information with a totally unknown adult.
A giggling whisper to his mate in the playground might be understandable.
But my suspicion is he has gained the knowledge from an adult, either by inadvertantly seeing adults chowing down, or some kind of exposure to porno. Whatever's going on my view is sort it now before the fuck up becomes too great, if it isn't already.
And as for Columbo, he might solve every crime in 45 minutes, but doesn't he strike you as a bit of a perv ? always skulking about in that dirty raincoat - a flasher at the very least I reckon, send for Steve McGarret. "Book him Danno"

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#29227 - 05/08/02 07:01 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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I've sent the posse in, fuck it- I can't stand by and ignore it.
It had to be done.
Lloydy

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#29228 - 05/08/02 08:14 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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The cast of "Law & Order" would have this situation straightened out in no time. I think the 10 year old snuke into his parents' bedroom,used their computer to websurf porno websites. Either that or the kid got ahold of a "Tijuana bible" which was passed around my preteen schoolyard during the mid 1950s. I disrupted class repeatedly after that by yelling "SIXTY NINE" though I knew not what it meant. The teacher punished me severely.


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#29229 - 05/08/02 08:45 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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I'm very glad to hear that you sent 5 o in to check it out! You may have saved two boys years of SA and maybe lots of other kids when they get older! People are really jumping on people for maybe being Peds...it's happening around me here where I live...Some good and some bad...lots of bad for the ones falsely blamed...good for the few Peds that they catch and stop!

Eddie


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#29230 - 05/09/02 06:31 PM Re: liar, liar ?
Lloydy Offline
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Thanks guys,
It may well be that access to porn is the key to this, it's just too easy to get hold of, and some parents have a very loose attitude as to what their kids are exposed to. And lets not pretend "cyberpatrol" and other software is immune from being bypassed by most savvy kids !!
I hate the thought that I might be subjecting some innocent family to such intense scrutiny, but if there's something going on I want it stopped and sorted- NOW. I make no apologies, what's the choice- upset some or completely screw up a few ? it's no contest.
I'm 48 and my abuse was from age 11 to 15, I'm still fucked up now, and I fear I always will be.
But in my spare time I help at a charitable therapy service for adult victim / survivors of SA, and my greatest pleasure is seeing young adults ( 16+ ) getting help, it's convinced me that help early on has so much more benefit than waiting, and making things worse while you do, until middle age. Is it the onset of a middle age crisis that makes so many of us wait until then to disclose ?
And if SA is taking place I want Andy Sipowicz and his NYPD Blues posse to round 'em up !
Thanks again.

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#29231 - 05/10/02 09:11 AM Re: liar, liar ?
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Good for you Lloydy.
Considering the situation, I think sending in the posse was quite simply the right thing to do.


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#29232 - 05/10/02 10:54 AM Re: liar, liar ?
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Loc: New Mexico
Lloydy,

I agree with Spidey. Better to get it checked out than to not get it taken care of ASAP and start dealing with the issues SA brings. I honestly hope it was just dirty talk rather than actually happening, but getting it checked out would be the best option.

Jim C.
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#29233 - 05/11/02 08:55 PM Re: liar, liar ?
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The posse have gone in, it's a very softly-softly approach that the family won't know about. Which is cool.
I hope it's an innocent explanation.

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