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#289379 - 05/29/09 12:59 PM Do you tip servers?
Hauser Offline
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My question for you guys is; Do you tip waiters/waitresses? Please explain why you do or do not.

I DO tip servers, because I happen to believe in the business model (except for the fact that Uncle Sam insists on requiring servers to report a minimum of 8% on their gross sales as actual income, regardless of weather they receive a tip or not) I think it's total bullshit that our government is even taxing people who make such a small amount of annual earnings, but I digress.

The most prominent reason I believe in the system of tipping servers is because it's their #1 reason to perform, to be timely, to be pleasant, to be personable, and they're also you're first line of defense against the cooks in the kitchen who are trying to hand out bad/cold food to the customers. A server who has a reasonable expectation for a tip will make sure that the food is hot, timely if desired, and not stuff that was picked up off the floor after it was accidentally dropped. I believe in the tipping business model for the restaurant industry.

My question still stands; Do you tip or don't you?


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#289380 - 05/29/09 01:07 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Hauser]
TJ jeff Offline

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unless the service is absolutely lousy I always tip at least a minimum of 10% (usualy closer to 20% - especialy if there is good service - or if it's slow and I know the person really needs the money)

waiters/waitresses work really hard - yet they have a very low base wage - they really do live off of the tips they make

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#289382 - 05/29/09 01:14 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Hauser]
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i do tip, and always in cash as much as possible, even when i pay with a credit or bank card. i leave a minimum of 20% and often times more, simply because in working with the fickle public, they deserve to know that their service is valuable. i can also be a lousy tipper if it is obvious that the server does not 'like me', or if they seem to be more doting on the table they imagine will net them a larger gratuity, especially if i arrived and have already been seated.

when i eat out, i usually go to a select few restaurants, because i know that my dining experience at the particular establishment will be pleasant, and the service will not interfere with my enjoyment of the food or the atmosphere.

i think for equality's sake that everyone's traceable income should be taxed. but for people barely making minimum wage, and being mandated to report a percentage even if they did not receive the amount they are forced to claim, is ludicrous.


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#289392 - 05/29/09 03:03 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Sans Logos]
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You know me Alan, and I usually tip 18% to 20%, always cash to the server. For unusually high end service I have tipped as high as 25%, and for incredibly lousy service I'll pay much less too. When I am on vacation in Vegas if I'm up I tend to tip like a high-roller. A couple of servers over time have lost their jobs as the result of really lousy service at my table too.

I think that a consumption tax would be the best way to go. If you earn less, you will spend less, and be taxed less too.

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#289418 - 05/29/09 07:56 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Trucker51]
king tut Offline
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Registered: 02/13/08
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In Britain the dynamics are different, so we don't tend to tip as much. There are not many places in Britain where tipping would be considered very normal, people might look at you strange if you offer a tip. Although in posh restaurants it seems more customary, which is strange, it should be more customary for the poorer restaurants not the fancy ones. In America i have heard that the servers make up alot of their wages from tips (not so in the UK), so if i was in America i would certainly tip, but i wouldn't be overly generous since i work hard for my money too and i can't give it out like smarties.

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#289419 - 05/29/09 08:03 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Hauser]
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I do tip waiters and waitresses simply because I know what it's like to work with the public-it's hell. You pretty much get blamed for everything. I always feel embarrassed when I go out with certain relatives because they treat some of the servers like complete shit. I'm not sure of the whole gratuity model and such but I do understand a person who puts on a brave face does their job, no matter now small, with pride.

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#289421 - 05/29/09 08:17 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Clockwise]
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Yes, but then servers are not the only people in public service who take all the blame for everything and still put on a brave face. I'm not saying they don't deserve it, just representing the other side of the coin.

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#289422 - 05/29/09 08:28 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: Clockwise]
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My parents are retired teachers, and I am told, it is amazing what a janitor will do for you....if you treat them like human beings.

I have the same mindset for tipping...

Locally...at my popular hangouts,I even tip for bad service, (which normally happens during the tourist season). I understand when they are overwhelmed and the bottom line is, they spoil me whenever possible.


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#290029 - 06/02/09 11:56 PM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: 1islandboy]
ericc Offline
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I know it is different in Europe than the U.S. but for myself I try to hit close to around 20% but really adjust for the situation. If it is a cheap bill I usually go more just because usually there is still a certain baseline of effort (even on say a $10.00 tab). My dad once made a comment that he doesn't tip as well on the wine portion of a bill if it contains expensive bottles of wine. For example, he wouldn't tip someone $20.00 to open a $100.00 bottle of wine. But that really has not ever been something I have needed take into account.


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#290054 - 06/03/09 08:30 AM Re: Do you tip servers? [Re: ericc]
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I use to tip a lot better when I thought they were barely squeezing by with the tips and wages, but then I learned someone I know makes $18/hour as a waitress at Perkins (not even a fancy restaurant) when you average all the tips out. That's 7 dollars more than I make an hour -- I don't feel so bad not giving 20% now. With that info I'm sort of annoyed that I'm made to feel like I "have to" tip more -- I'm not rich either! wink lol

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