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#275271 - 02/14/09 09:52 PM Re: Gay Marriage Ban is Unconstitutional in CA [Re: Stephen_5]
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Registered: 06/12/08
Posts: 1755
Loc: Mojave Desert, Ca
Alan,

There are two people in a marriage so $250,000 times 2 = $500,000. Alan it sounds like you need to call your state and federal representatives and talk to them in modifying these laws that you find so offensive.

Mike

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#275278 - 02/14/09 10:20 PM Re: Gay Marriage Ban is Unconstitutional in CA [Re: michael banks]
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Registered: 06/20/08
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Loc: MD
Oral arguments will be held March 5, 2009. Hopefully the CA Supreme Court will overturn that hideous ballot initiative. Probably 4-3 like the original decision.

Brian

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#275965 - 02/19/09 01:23 AM Re: Gay Marriage Ban is Unconstitutional in CA [Re: LN3(SS)]
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The CA Supreme Court is also going to decide whether all of the 18,000 couples married between May and November can still be married or will be involuntarily divorced. I for one do not want to divorce my partner. We're married, we have the document to prove it. We love each other and want to stay with each other, forever. I don't think it's too much for us to have the same rights, priviledges and responsibilities that are afforded to other couples.

Take good care of yourselves,

Steve

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#276012 - 02/19/09 11:07 AM Re: Gay Marriage Ban is Unconstitutional in CA [Re: Stephen_5]
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Registered: 11/12/05
Posts: 2962
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And what if the other spouse doesn't even work Michael? It's still just-plain discrimination.

Perhaps if I ever marry (probably not), I'll change my attitude about this whole privileged-status game that we're playing here, but I seriously doubt it.


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#276025 - 02/19/09 12:34 PM Re: Gay Marriage Ban is Unconstitutional in CA [Re: Hauser]
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Registered: 08/17/07
Posts: 438
Loc: Western, Canada
confused

Please God... help me to understand why using such an emotionally charged term persists??? Each time I see or hear the "gay marriage" debate it annoys me to see the polarity among people who are usually loving, caring, tolerant...

In my view there is far more likely-hood of achieving a consensus of support for the legal recognition of same sex couples by the government. As I see it the underlying issue is about spousal rights that already devolve to partners in opposite sex couples but not to partners in same sex couples; like survivor benefits... The issue has taken on a life of it's own and become a grand Theosophical debate, and all because using the word "marriage" gets emotional attention.

The haters will hate regardless, and their flocks will follow if there is a strong emotional hook and an identifiable enemy. Let's all pray that the emotional hook be removed and the haters lose their wider following.

Love, Wes

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