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#273542 - 02/01/09 01:34 PM Learning Disorders....MT?
Nyjah Offline
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Just wondering who else out there has dealt with them and what they did while they were in school with them?

I'm dealing with Dyslexia which is why I don't post on here very much anymore or go into chat. Seems to have gotten worse and I don't know why...

Also have ADHD.


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#273548 - 02/01/09 02:04 PM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Nyjah]
Trucker51 Offline
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I have ADD and took Welbutrin for it for some time. I would always lose my keys or wallet and had to learn to put everything in the same place every time, also have to leave stuff laying around where I can see it, which some people think indicates clutter. And I have been late for work more than a few times too. Some people have been happy to overlook my occasional tardiness and others have not.

Loosing stuff, being late a lot, and loosing jobs because of it can affect your self-esteem over time, as could dyslexia too, I'm sure. You have to learn to work around your shortcomings and be proud of the person that you are. Don't let your little problem and your feelings of inadequacy ruin this opportunity for you, my young friend. Lots of us here understand what you are going through and sympathize with you.

Just try to be the best that you can be and be proud of that.

Mark

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#273761 - 02/02/09 10:45 PM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Trucker51]
onlyakid Offline
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Nyjah,
I have learning disorders and ADD as well. Unfortunately these combined with the abuse I suffered caused me to give up and therefore I just did enough to get by because doing my best was really hard and I was depressed. I thought I was stupid, so I lowered my expectations. Because I didn't learn what I should have in high school, college was difficult for me especially math and I ended up dropping out.

My advice to you is do your best, don't just get by. Your not stupid.

Jason

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"Being with people that understand you...Priceless"

"and i don't want the world to see me, cause i don't think that they'd understand"

"You don't know what love is...you just do as your told"

"My life has changed. What you take as a simple thing, is not so simple for me anymore"


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#273772 - 02/03/09 12:09 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Nyjah]
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Originally Posted By: Nyjah
Just wondering who else out there has dealt with them and what they did while they were in school with them?



Nyjah,

I also have experienced learning disorders due to CSA. They were most expressed as a reading deficiency. It was not typical dyslexia, however. I would be glad to outline for you the treatments which helped me most.

It is already late tonight and so I hope I can do this tomorrow.

Allen

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#274648 - 02/09/09 10:31 PM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: pufferfish]
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Nyjah,

I see it has been 6 days since my original response. Sorry for that.

Learning disabilities can be different for each individual. However, learning disabilities related to abuse issues in boys tend to have several things in common.

In boys, the nerve tract connecting the left and right parts of the brain is smaller than in girls. The left part of the brain governs verbal abilities and rational thinking. The right part of the brain governs feelings, music, and beauty.

The connection between these parts of the brain should allow us to coordinate these activities.

BUT, in abuse, boys sometimes turn OFF this connection in part or in total. This leaves a lack of coordination between the feeling and the rational parts of their lives. This seems to help them because the feelings hurt. They can continue their lives but without feeling the pain so much.

But (again) this leaves a lack of coordination between these parts of the brain and can seriously affect the ability to coordinate the visual input from the eyes. This is seen most strongly in reading. They are unable to coordinate their eyes in reading and so they can see double images and other problelms.

Some opticians are trained to help teach kids how to use their eyes together. It is called vision therapy. The kid goes to a fun room full of gadgets which can be used to help them learn to use their eyes together. It usually takes a couple of months. But it is well worth it for a guy who has this problem. It can straighten out his reading problem and other problems.

You can do some of this on your own just by watching 3-D movies. I watched one movie dozens of times just to strengthen this ability for me. The best film I watched was Spy Kids 3-D. It is pretty easy to get and plays on a normal dvd player through the TV. However you have to use the special red/green glasses that come with the dvd. This exercise really helped me. You would find watching this is fun, but you need to make yourself see the movie with both eyes at once.

http://www.amazon.com/Kids-Game-Over-Two...6268&sr=1-1

I hope this helps a little bit. Let me know about how things are going.

Allen

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#286425 - 05/05/09 11:23 PM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: pufferfish]
Shadow+Walker Offline


Registered: 04/16/09
Posts: 287
Loc: desolate foggy nights, USA
Allen,
I was looking back through some slightly older posts and revived this one because I can really relate to it. Nyjah, Jason, and Trucker51, I am there with you guys too in this experience. I was diagnosed as an adult in graduate school with w/ ADD, Dyslexia and Dyscalculia (Math). I had gotten through undegraduate school on a wing and a prayer; and earning my Master's Degree took me twice as long as it should have and about destroyed me. What further research / knowledge do you have that you can share with me? Is reversing some these (possible) cognitive effects of my CSA probable?????????? If so it has GREAT implications for the future 20 some years of my career and personal life. I have already spent over twenty years getting to this point, but what if the cognitive shackles can be taken off for the next twenty? Is it possible that I can walk fast or maybe even run, where I have been hobbling thus far?

Hopeful,
Shadow+Walker

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#286438 - 05/06/09 02:46 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Shadow+Walker]
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Registered: 03/22/09
Posts: 102
Loc: The Netherlands
I hope you don't give up on this site Nyjah, for it is not about writing and chatting without grammar and spelling mistakes what the site is about... As long as you don't start talking Chinese or something we can still understand you and that's what matters... Hope to see you in chat sometime!

Jesse


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#286440 - 05/06/09 03:07 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Jesse92]
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Registered: 09/28/08
Posts: 562
Hey Nyjah I suffer from a learning disability. I am an auditory learner and I process information about 100X slower than your average person. So when I'm presented with information it takes me longer and harder to understand. So if I were normal or more average I would probably be doing better grades wise but as a result I barely struggle to make B and Cs. For treatment and how I deal with it well I'm currently in college. I was diagnosed when I was younger. I was given special help in school. As I got farther along I was in high school and felt like fending for myself, big mistake. I was recently re-tested to get assistance at my university and found about the processing information slower. I now get accommodations and get to take my exams in a separate room by myself and I get extended time. I seem to be doing better than before. I don't get as stressed, no more sweaty palms I have the room to myself. No other human beings to distract me. If your in school, college check it out. It's amazing the stuff you pay for or is provided that your school. So much to check and out use, often at no additional costs to the students. Good luck.


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#286443 - 05/06/09 04:27 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Charlie24]
Anarion Cti Offline
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Registered: 03/23/09
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Loc: Eastern US
Nyjah,
I can confirm what what Charlie24 just said, because I am a professor, and I make these kind of accommodations for students with learning disabilities all the time. In fact, we are required to do so by law: the Americans With Disabilities Act.
If it is any encouragement to anyone, I too have dyslexia, discalcula and ADHD, but with the help of Almighty God, a few years of therapy for dyslexia, and a lot of hard work, I got through three masters degrees and my PhD program, though it took me 17 years to do it (which is way longer than normal).
I'm thankful to Pufferfish for pointing out the link between CSA and learning disability. Now that I think about it, my dyslexia seems to have peaked at about the time that I was abused. I could not spell worth beans, in spite of the fact that I could read above my age level, a combination which specialists say is very unusual. I now think my rotten spelling and reversal of letters, like b's and d's and p's & q's, may in part have been due to post-traumatic stress from the abuse. Around the time of the abuse (7) years old, I once wrote my name completely backwards, in what is called "mirror image writing", and I had no idea I had written it wrong, i.e. I wrote "itC noiranA" in stead of "Anarion Cti" (that's just an example and is not a real name.) For me, SpellChecker is still a real blessing!
Now when I give multiple choice exams, I always use capital letters for the choices, so that I and my dyslexic students will not confuse the "b" and the "d", since I almost never confuse "B" with "D".
Interestingly, I do not have dyslexia when I write in foreign languages, like French, Spanish, and languages that do not use the Latin alphabet used by English. This is because the foreign language acquisition part of our brain is located in a physically different part of the brain than our native language acquisition center is.
However, I still have HUGE difficulty telling left from right, and any time someone says those words, I still have to think carefully which is which! I once was driving a car with a dyslexic girl giving my directions, and things worked perfectly: She would say "right" and I would turn left, which was what she meant anyway! LOL!!!
I have always been clumsy, uncoordinated, and no good at sports, perhaps due to genetics, perhaps due to pressure on the inner ear due to allergies, but also perhaps due to dissociation from my body due to the abuse. My therapist believes this is the case, and I have also read elsewhere that abused children may be very clumsy and accident-prone due to dissociation.
Nyjah, there is a lot of effective therapy treatment help out there for dyslexic college students, so please get yourself tested and get the free help. And please keep on posting! I have read many of your posts, and I really think you make a valuable contribution here!
Here's RESPECT to all my fellow survivors with learning disabilities! Together, WE CAN DO IT!

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"Thou, O Lord, are the shield about me;
You're my helper,
You're the one who lifts up my head."
"Whom have I in heaven or earth but You?"

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#286545 - 05/07/09 01:12 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Anarion Cti]
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Registered: 04/16/09
Posts: 287
Loc: desolate foggy nights, USA
*VENT /Trigger*
This has been an "AHA!!" moment for me. I always thought my LDs were just due to possible heredity or moving schools at a crucial time and missing out on something, etc... I never put it together that that *^%&# fried my brain when he worked me over. I am feeling grief / mourning all the rewards that I earned with my dedication and hard work and yet never "achieved". I could have earned a scholarship to university, instead of being financially devestated by compounding interest of student loans for the next thrirty years. I could have: read so many good books; enjoyed little league baseball; been an honor roll student; represented my class in the spelling bee;_________(you name it) and he stole it from me! He lured me into his house, took my clothes off and stole it all from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Peace,
Shadow+Walker

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#286567 - 05/07/09 08:56 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: Shadow+Walker]
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Registered: 07/27/08
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Loc: TEXAS
Hi my brothers/friends.

Oh God, just before this was the vision CSA possibilities.

Now learning disorders. I always was a slow learner, but like I've just mentioned I had poor vision. I wasn't one known for paying attention in school. I remember having to go to some sort of a extra reading/comprehension class. I read a book like a readers digest, then the teacher would ask us about we had just read, well I had a heck of a time explaining what I had just read.

But I also remember me as a young boy being taken to some sort of a clinic/hospital by my "mother". There we were seperated, and I was with a nurse (someone in a white coat). She would have me doing things and talking to me. She was recording our talk on a dictaphone machine. Later I also remember that Iwas taken into a darkened room where a bunch of wires were put on my head. There was a machine there recording the readings (something like those lie detector machines) that you see in those very old gangster movies.

What that was all about, I never was told. But I have always felt that my "mother" (first sexual abuser) should have been the one hooked up to those wires.

So, once again another possibility on just why, I was that, loner, angry, shy boy.

Anyway a very interesting post, vision problems, learning problems, emotional problems & sexual problems. Our sexual agressors had done their work on us young boy's well.

Looks like against all odds, we have made it this far.

Heal well my brothers/friends.

Pete (Irishmoose)

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Working Boys' Home 10-14 yrs old, grades 5-8. 1949-1953
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A very humble alumni of the WOR Dahlonega, GA.
May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#286577 - 05/07/09 09:46 AM Re: Learning Disorders....MT? [Re: petercorbett]
king tut Offline
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Loc: UK
I didn't have any learning problems, but i can see how it can arise from abuse. I probably went the opposite way- using work as escapism from what was happening.

I have some difficulties trying to reside in the whole world sometimes instead of just "my" world. When i was younger my mind was always wandering away in its own little imaginary world to protect itself, i used to daydream alot, sometimes i find that i wander away in the same way and then everythying around me feels like it is not real and just a show on tv as if my eyes are a tv screen that i am looking through. Sometimes i seem to adopt traits that autistic people would have, about wanting to wear certain clothes so that i can feel that i am real and not making eye contact- not avoiding, but simply that i am in my own mind.

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I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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