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#261746 - 11/15/08 12:21 PM On being sexual...
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Edited by ttoon (11/16/08 09:46 AM)
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#261753 - 11/15/08 12:59 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ttoon]
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Dave....that was an awesome post...coming out and telling all about yourself takes guts...we al lhave a long journey to go and it is sometimes a dificlult one, but once we know where we are heading it makes the journey easier...be well, be good, be yourslef smile


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#261755 - 11/15/08 01:01 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ttoon]
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Edited by steveb121 (11/16/08 11:38 AM)

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#261757 - 11/15/08 01:09 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: steveb121]
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Originally Posted By: steveb121

Real good to share this stuff, because it affects more that just you and I,


Yeah, well, just talk to me now!!! Man, I've been following this thread almost relgiously. There are so many words banging around in my head, and my heart, but I still can't get them into any cohesive order. Look out when I do, though...................

Thanks guys, this soooo helpfull to me.

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#261758 - 11/15/08 01:14 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: steveb121]
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Originally Posted By: steveb121
Hi Dave
Our experiences seem to mirror each other


Aren't you both also married to women with kids too?
My understanding is this forum is for men who identify as GBT etc.

Would not your views as you identify as sexually label-less men married to women be better discussed in the Open forum or Sexual Identity?

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#261760 - 11/15/08 01:20 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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Edited by ttoon (11/16/08 09:46 AM)
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#261763 - 11/15/08 01:28 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ttoon]
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As a "man who likes/loves men" survivor I guess we agree to disagree.

It would be interesting to hear what others have to say
& I did ask that this thread be moved

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#261765 - 11/15/08 01:29 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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Edited by ttoon (11/16/08 09:47 AM)
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#261767 - 11/15/08 01:33 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ttoon]
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#261768 - 11/15/08 01:36 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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Because ya can't be Gay/Queer and be married to woman at the same time, right? And it was only the straight part of me that fathered four daughters, of course. I checked my queerness at the bedroom door each time, I guess.

Oh geez, I'm gonna go on a right freakin' rant...............



Edited by joelRT (11/16/08 11:39 AM)
Edit Reason: something things shouldn't be said
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#261770 - 11/15/08 01:38 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: steveb121]
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I am working within the parameters of MS

Are they posting because of sexual confusion/identity issues?
I am reading about speculative discrimination?
I am responding to what is already posted.

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#261772 - 11/15/08 01:40 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: joelRT]
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well you can be bisexual and not gay...that will cover a lot of people here...i guess...but i welcome every post...must times teaches us one or 2 things ..:)


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#261775 - 11/15/08 01:55 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: joelRT]
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breathe Joel & get a grip

The issue isnt the sexuality of the poster, it is the issue they are posting about
according to how MS has set these forums up

Don't shit in my fruit loops because I am following them.

Again, interesting how the most vocal here are married men with kids
whatever the fuck label you want to apply to yourselves

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#261778 - 11/15/08 02:02 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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#261779 - 11/15/08 02:04 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: steveb121]
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I will leave this in the capable hands of the mods

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#261780 - 11/15/08 02:05 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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#261781 - 11/15/08 02:07 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: steveb121]
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I realize this room of the MS forum is for gay/bi/trans that been sexually abused..but if someone that is not bi/tyrans or gay want to post it wont bother me at all...i am very tolerant..but thats me...


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#261783 - 11/15/08 02:11 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: ineffable]
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Why is it always the ignorant and the tragically misinformed who have the most vocal opinions???



Edited by joelRT (11/15/08 05:08 PM)
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#261798 - 11/15/08 04:24 PM Re: On being sexual... [Re: joelRT]
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I, too, was sexualized at a very early age. I've always been sexually attracted to men and women.

My therapist asked me in my last session how I see myself, given that we'd been talking about my dating girls in high school and some later. I suppose I've always seen myself as bi-sexual. That's because, to me, that refers to sex. I told him I identify myself as gay because I find myself more emotionally attracted to men. They are two different things to me.

I've been with my male partner for almost 27 years now. But, I don't rule out the possibility that, if this relationship were to end, I might meet a woman I wanted to be with. Relationships aren't about sex. I would hope a good relationship would involve sex, but if that's all there is, it doesn't last long. That's certainly my experience at any rate.

When I got sober at 50, I went through a short period where I asked myself if I was even gay. After all, I came out at the same time I started to drink. Well, that didn't last long. Truth is, I knew I was more attracted to men than women long before I started to drink.

Of course, the amazing thing about it all to me is that I don't particularly like men. Well, perhaps it's that I'm afraid of them, given the abuse as a child. But I'm working on that.

So, bottom line, I don't like labels unless I'm using them on myself. I'm pretty sure I didn't want to be gay way back then either. It wasn't just inconvenient, it was dangerous. As I've gotten older, I simply don't care whether others like my being gay. Their problem, not mine.

All I care about is trying to find a place within me to be happy. I only fight with you about being gay, straight, bisexual, etc. when I don't like myself. Well, I still don't like myself all the time, but it's getting better.



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#262014 - 11/16/08 07:46 AM Re: On being sexual... [Re: beakin]
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Edited by ttoon (11/16/08 09:47 AM)
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