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#259184 - 10/31/08 11:52 AM Halloween
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Registered: 09/20/08
Posts: 225
Loc: Indiana
I hate holloween...it seeems i don't have any fun memories of it, rather aweful memories of some holloweeens in my childhood. but I guess I need to get over that...as I need to get over so many things...sorry am going through a deep depression right now


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#259185 - 10/31/08 11:59 AM Re: Halloween [Re: sunwolf]
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Hey Sunwolf,

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sorry am going through a deep depression right now


Talk to us, Sunwolf - we're listening. Remember that we're all in this together so don't isolate with what you're going through. 'Cmon, lets talk it out....................

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#259231 - 10/31/08 04:20 PM Re: Halloween [Re: joelRT]
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I don't like holloween because of all the masks, my perps had them to wear and I never saw their faces. I know what their masks look like and they scare the crap out of me. I don't need that so I hide trying to make it through.

Holloween is just bad I don't know who they all are but they are still out there.

I need a hug

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#259234 - 10/31/08 04:30 PM Re: Halloween [Re: usmc97]
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My Halloween memories are pretty negative, too. Does anyone have good memories of it? Why is it even celebrated? The only thing positive I can think of (besides chocolate!) is "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown." Love Snoopy as the WWI flying ace. Other than that, a HORRIBLE evening. Just an evening for teenagers to terrorize little kids.

(((sunwolf))) - I'll be in touch

(((usmc97))) - that hug wasn't easy, either; I'm ex-USAF

Peace,

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#259239 - 10/31/08 04:34 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Fissy Tsickens]
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Originally Posted By: Fissy Tsickens
Does anyone have good memories of it? Why is it even celebrated? The only thing positive I can think of (besides chocolate!) is "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown."


I did. Halloween was usually a fun time for me as a kid. My first costume was a skeleton (age 6). By the time I was 13 I was an angry kid and so I was soaping windows and putting cherry bombs down sewers, etc. I was acting out what had been done to me, but I still take responsibility for my actions.

Here at MS we have the great pumpkin, Robbie Brown.



Edited by pufferfish (10/31/08 04:35 PM)

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#259245 - 10/31/08 05:06 PM Re: Halloween [Re: pufferfish]
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland
I have some fond memories of halloween, i remember some fun trick or treating times, but i find alot of my fond childhood memories are squandered by the bad ones... on and i got some history of halloween too....

Halloween has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival known as Samhain (Irish pronunciation: [ˈsˠaunʲ]; from the Old Irish samain).[1] The festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture, and is sometimes[2] regarded as the "Celtic New Year."[3] Traditionally, the festival was a time used by the ancient Celtic pagans to take stock of supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. The ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, now known as Halloween, the boundary between the living and the deceased dissolved, and the dead become dangerous for the living by causing problems such as sickness or damaged crops. The festivals would frequently involve bonfires, into which bones of slaughtered livestock were thrown. Costumes and masks were also worn at the festivals in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or placate them.[4][5]

History of name

The term Halloween is shortened from All Hallows' Even (both "even" and "eve" are abbreviations of "evening," but "Halloween" gets its "n" from "even") as it is the eve of "All Hallows' Day,"[6] which is now also known as All Saints' Day. It was a day of religious festivities in various northern European Pagan traditions,[7] until Popes Gregory III and Gregory IV moved the old Christian feast of All Saints' Day from May 13 (which had itself been the date of a pagan holiday, the Feast of the Lemures) to November 1. In the ninth century, the Church measured the day as starting at sunset, in accordance with the Florentine calendar. Although All Saints' Day is now considered to occur one day after Halloween, the two holidays were, at that time, celebrated on the same day. Liturgically, the Church traditionally celebrated that day as the Vigil of All Saints, and, until 1970, a day of fasting as well. Like other vigils, it was celebrated on the previous day if it fell on a Sunday, although secular celebrations of the holiday remained on the 31st. The Vigil was suppressed in 1955, but was later restored in the post-Vatican II calendar.

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#259280 - 10/31/08 08:29 PM Re: Halloween [Re: irishguy]
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I took my kids out for the usual candy extortion scheme. Our neighborhood is a tough one to walk cuz there is a ton of space between houses. My daughter dropped-out half way through the treck (I think some coyotes took her home).

You ever have one of those times when SO many elements of a moment is JUST like "then?" ... Just like when you were a kid....just like that time ______? Tonight was like that.

Boo and I were up high on a hill and the sky was perfectly clear...full of stars. The air, the smells, the temperature...everything was JUST like Halloween night when I was 11 years old.

My son is one of those deep-thinkers and is very sentimental. I told him about the connection I made between tonight and the same night in 1971. He said that he will likely remember this night forever too.

I'm fortunate with my Halloween memories. Daddy Dearest was always on a biz trip during Halloween, and the dreadful four left me fully alone. They were probably too busy egging houses and other terrible things to be bothered with using my warm flesh.

But tonight was really neat. Its great to be a part of new happy memories for a couple of kids. We had fun. smile

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#259283 - 10/31/08 08:44 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Still]
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I recently heard Halloween described as the day we all send our kids out to accept candy from strangers. I like Halloween, but hearing it put that way kind of made me look at it a whole different way. hmm..musta been David Letterman said that.
(((sunw)))
(((usmc)))





Edited by blueshift (10/31/08 08:50 PM)
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#259343 - 10/31/08 10:56 PM Re: Halloween [Re: blueshift]
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i liked halloween, i liked dressing up, i liked sweets, i liked drawing halloween pictures, and liked the pumpkins and i liked the decorations, and i liked the scary films, especially zombie films.

but i didn't do anything today.
i guess i'm just too old for halloween now...

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#259349 - 10/31/08 11:09 PM Re: Halloween [Re: king tut]
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Registered: 10/25/08
Posts: 10
I like the idea of a day where people can enjoy creepy stuff, but I hate Halloween in this country. Get to clean an egg off the window (as does everyone in the street) and have to disable the doorbell and ignore people knocking because even if I could afford to give people sweets or whatever, I don't see why "give me something or else" should be tolerated today (well yesterday now) just cuz it's a certain date. I also hate having "holidays" pushed in to my face and literally on my doorstep. Maybe I'm just boring but I felt the same was a kid.


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#259352 - 10/31/08 11:12 PM Re: Halloween [Re: No1Special]
ericc Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
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I always liked Halloween as a kid. Dressing up was fun, and digging and sorting through the candy was always fun. I try to avoid that sort of sweet tooth these days though.


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#259398 - 11/01/08 12:28 AM Re: Halloween [Re: ericc]
Trucker51 Offline
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Registered: 05/20/08
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Loc: Denver, CO
My favorite Halloween memory was when my one sister dressed-up as a box of laundry detergent. (There is a picture of her in her costume on the Found Another Photo part two topic on the member art forum, I think on page 10). It would have been 1968 when I was 11. She tripped over a decorator rock at the edge of someone's lawn and fell face down, and her arms couldn't even reach the ground. I'll never forget her flailing her arms around and everyone there laughing.

Lewis, Halloween parties are popular not only in college, but also later in life too. Here in Denver we have a couple of dozen long-standing haunted house tours, and it is popular to wear a costume to the office on Halloween here too. My last Halloween party, maybe 10 years ago at age 42, I went as a 50s greaser-type. And on Boston Legal the other day, they had ole Captain Kirk dressed-up as a chicken for Halloween. And he is how old?

Sorry to hear that Halloween hasn't been fun for everyone. I know, too much chocolate can make you sick, but....

Have fun with what is left of Halloween,

Mark

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#259419 - 11/01/08 05:09 AM Re: Halloween [Re: Trucker51]
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Loc: TEXAS
I used to dress up as a black boy, all I needed for a mask was a cork from a wine bottle to make my face and hands black, and I carried a stick to look like a hobo. But one time some old guy whom we put empty milk bottles (Mark. will remember those old glass milk bottles)in front of his door and he scattered them broken all over the place, but he got his revenge as he gave me and my friend, what we thought was fudge, was a Boraxo soap bar cut up like pieces of fudge, and after we took a big bite the rest of the night was hell. But I enjoy seeing those young kids having fun and enjoying their youth. Heal well my friends.
Pete (Irishmoose)

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#259434 - 11/01/08 09:41 AM Re: Halloween [Re: No1Special]
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Registered: 06/18/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Washington DC
It's like every other holiday to me. I have to struggle to think back to when I was 5 or younger to come up with happy memories of it. After that, every holiday was abusive and so there really are no good memories to be found. Just crap, which reminds me of a funny clip from a funny movie called "As Good As It Gets."

Here's a link to it. If you haven't seen the movie, it might be worth checking out. I found it uplifting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8shdlcJjAJ8

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#259462 - 11/01/08 12:26 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Dan99]
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Yes, milk used to be delivered in glass bottles to my folk's house by a guy wearing a white uniform driving a little truck like a Fedex van. He would then put the milk bottles into an insulated metal box just outside our front door. And in CT at about age 5 or 6 I still have a terrible memory from my sister and I trying to carry the bottles up the stairs. She was 2 years younger then me, and dropped her bottle at the top of the stairs, which broke and caused a milk waterfall down the stairs. My mom was not happy, to say the least.

My aunt and uncle used to get milk delivered from their local dairy in metal cans that were several gallons in size. Pasturization did all of this in by extending the shelf life of milk long enough for it to be more-readily sold in stores, by the mid to late 1960s.

The milkman, as he was called, wore a uniform complete with a white hat that kind of looked like a Halloween costume, or a nurse's uniform.

Mark

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#259472 - 11/01/08 12:56 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Trucker51]
Geeders Offline
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Registered: 09/03/08
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Loc: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Time Warp! We too had a milkman, also an egg man and a bread man. Milk went into the milkbox which was a small cupboard in the wall of the house. The milkman had access from the outside, and we had access from the inside. For a time, it was also a way of getting into the house if the door was locked.
Long, long (thinner!) time ago,,,


Jim

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#259474 - 11/01/08 01:00 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Trucker51]
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Registered: 09/20/08
Posts: 225
Loc: Indiana
I still recall...when i was 5 my mother dressed me as a little princess for holloween...for me at that time was ok...i didnt know better...when i was 12 i went treat or trick with my older bro...he went with me to my cousins...the treat was i was forced to s...ck them and was sodomized...


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#259477 - 11/01/08 01:09 PM Re: Halloween [Re: sunwolf]
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I think that the worst thing that I recall was one Halloween when my dad got mad and smacked me and knocked all of my candy all over the driveway, then recall my parent's fighting over it. Or another time when I got way more candy then my little sister then my dad played Robin Hood by force, knocking my candy all over the kitchen. Then another big argument followed.

Sorry to hear about your experience with Halloween and certainly I didn't mean to minimize your Halloween experiences with humor and recalling old details from our past. The milkman bit came from something that Peter Corbett had said.

Mark

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#259480 - 11/01/08 01:17 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Trucker51]
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Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 359
Loc: Lake Forest, CA
The last Halloween I remember going out on was when I was 8 and my father (the perp) dressed me as a dog and took me to all the neighbors houses and said "See my dog? Isn't he ugly? Want to see him do a trick?" And then he would make me eat dog food (Purina dry) in front of them and laugh. He took the candy and ate it. Woof!

I hide on Halloween.

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#259482 - 11/01/08 01:19 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Trucker51]
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Registered: 09/20/08
Posts: 225
Loc: Indiana
It is Ok Trucker...my own experiences are not the rest...I did enjoy the milkman post and also the soapbox costume...I am just trying to get over this and venting out helps...


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#259483 - 11/01/08 01:22 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Tinman]
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Originally Posted By: Tinman
The last Halloween I remember going out on was when I was 8 and my father (the perp) dressed me as a dog He took the candy and ate it. Woof!

I hide on Halloween.


Tinman,

It would be so hard to have your father be the perp. I can understand why you don't like halloween.

Underneath you really do have a heart. You have probably put it into neutral drive.


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#259487 - 11/01/08 01:37 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Geeders]
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Originally Posted By: Geeders
Milk went into the milkbox which was a small cupboard in the wall of the house. The milkman had access from the outside, and we had access from the inside. For a time, it was also a way of getting into the house if the door was locked.
Long, long (thinner!) time ago,,,


Jim,

We also had a milk box. The house is still there in Denver. I would get in the house through the milk box when I was a little boy. One year we came home from a summer vacation time and my parents saw something about the house that made them think it had been broken in to. They wanted me to crawl through the milk shoot and check things out. Well, I could be really stubborn. Anyway, why should I go through the milk shoot if there was a robber inside. Home Alone hadn't been filmed yet and I wasn't about to invent it on my own.
Finally they came up with another solution and I failed to get my purple heart that day.


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#259490 - 11/01/08 02:03 PM Re: Halloween [Re: pufferfish]
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Loc: TEXAS
Ok guys, I think that some of us are showing just how darn OLD we are. That Halloween that I remembered was the ONLY one that I had, as in that Catholic orphanage/Home we didn't have those types of activities. Like most of us we can't really remember a great part of our childhood. Heal well friends.
Pete (Irishmoose)

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#259597 - 11/01/08 11:22 PM Re: Halloween [Re: petercorbett]
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Halloween was great.

We had far to much candy, it will proberly take us a year to eat the rest of it, just intime to buy more for next year!

Also i had lots of the kids that came to the door who said they like my costume! I was just in my normal goth clothing, but I did look scary then some of the kids! laugh

Elliot

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#259716 - 11/02/08 04:39 PM Re: Halloween [Re: Still]
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Originally Posted By: Robbie Brown

Boo and I were up high on a hill and the sky was perfectly clear...full of stars. My son is one of those deep-thinkers and is very sentimental.houses and other terrible things to be bothered with using my warm flesh.

But tonight was really neat. Its great to be a part of new happy memories for a couple of kids. We had fun. smile


Did you say "Boo"? LOL laugh


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#259871 - 11/03/08 11:15 AM Re: Halloween [Re: pufferfish]
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Allen I hear what you are saying about robbers in the house. We had a dog that would sleep on Mum and dad's bed. When the house WAS robbed, the robber saw the dog on the bed and simply closed the door. Some watchdog eh? And if the dog did awaken, I'm sure he just would have showed the robber where all the best stuff was...

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