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#257765 - 10/25/08 12:08 PM Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4
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Coke or Pepsi: So Which Brand Are You Drinking in November?

Albert Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. One could readily say the same thing about participating in presidential elections.

Every four years approximately half of all eligible voters (they other half has the good sense to stay home) head to the polls to engage in what amounts to little more than the political version of the "Taste Test Challenge." Their choices: Coke or Pepsi, and like ubiquitous soft-drinks, the Republicans' and the Democrats' primary goal is to gain as many loyal consumers as possible. Many voters have been chugging their brand of choice for decades; others may have just started, and a few may have even switched brands along the way.

Of course, as with any established product, there are times oh, about every four years or so when the public begins to grow dissatisfied. They discover that New Coke doesn't taste as good as the old version, and that Pepsi One doesn't quite measure up as advertised. Fortunately, there's always a slightly revised version Pepsi Jazz or Coca-Cola Zero fresh off the corporate assembly line designed to excite and entice the masses once again. Well at least for four more years or until the public realizes that despite all the glitter, slogans, and hype surrounding the latest drink du jour, they're still consuming nothing more than carbonated water and corn syrup.

Is there a more appropriate analogy for what our federal electoral system has become?

We no longer have independent candidates representing the views of the electorate; rather, we have two corporate brands fighting for market share the only tangible difference between the two is the advertising (campaign promises). Obama (Pepsi) promises to be the "choice of a new generation," while McCain (Coca-Cola Classic) declares that he's "the real thing." But while the two products may taste slightly different, they both consist of the same basic ingredients.

We have a Congress with the lowest public approval ratings in history; yet both presidential candidates (and one vice presidential candidate) are, in fact, members of Congress. (Apparently voters are far more forgiving of individual congressional representatives than they are of the lawmaking body as a whole, as if that makes any logical sense.) Even more discouraging, much of the "changes" offered by the two leading candidates are no more than cynical promises to undo the very messes they and their colleagues created.

For example, both Sens. Obama and McCain spent ample television time during the debates pledging to end "corporate welfare" as we know it. Sounds great, but only if voters ignore that both candidates (as well as VP nominee Joe Biden) just voted to spend hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars to bail out giant corporations like AIG, General Motors and Chrysler.

Both the Republican and Democrat presidential candidates also favor America's ongoing war-mongering and imperialism overseas. McCain thinks that a multi-decade occupation of a sovereign country (Iraq) is perfectly acceptable for a nation that prides itself as a "beacon of freedom," while Obama thinks nothing of threatening military actions against Pakistan and Iran for so much as daring to engage in domestic activities that conflict with America's global interests.

Of course, it's not as if Sens. McCain or Obama are the problem per se; more accurately, they are the products of a system that is broken beyond repair a corrupt federal Leviathan that pretends that duopoly is choice and that an oligarchy is representative government. Yet every few years, millions of Americans continue to give some semblance of legitimacy to this Orwellian standard of democracy by participating (voting) and perpetuating its existence. They elect to put a fresh coat of paint and new shutters on a home that's very foundation is collapsing, and afterward they wonder why their house remains uninhabitable.

So this November my choice for the presidency will be "Not in my name." Of course, that doesn't mean I don't care about many of the issues the candidates are talking about; it's just I've not yet grown cynical enough to believe that selecting Pepsi over Coke is a viable option for addressing the multitude of challenges our nation faces.

October 25, 2008

paularmentano@aol.com is a frequent contributor to LewRockwell.com.

Copyright 2008 Paul Armentano


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#257793 - 10/25/08 02:21 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: Hauser]
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AS USUAL, something from Lew Rockwell's site manages to COMPLETELY miss the mark.

New Coke tasted awesome - in fact, I seem to remember liking it better than Classic Coke. Too bad you can't get it anywhere anymore.

Oh...good analogy, by the way, heh.

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#257797 - 10/25/08 02:27 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: melliferal]
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New Coke was about as good as Crystal Pepsi, YUCK!!!!!


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#257800 - 10/25/08 02:32 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: Hauser]
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Dude NO WAY. Crystal Pepsi was horrendous, but New Coke was just great. It was a little less sweet than Classic Coke, which I liked. I think. I mean, I was a kid. But it rocked!

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#257806 - 10/25/08 02:47 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: melliferal]
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Make mine a Pepsi please.

If more people got off their a-- and express their opinon in the political process maybe things would change.

If you choose not to participe what right do you have to complain.
In my view those who sit there with their head in the sand and then cry about the sand in there eyes only have themselves to blame.

This article is the most cynical garabe that I've read in a long time. And it's going in the place it will do the most good at the bottom of my bird's cage.

Mike

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#257833 - 10/25/08 04:59 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: michael banks]
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Originally Posted By: michael banks
Make mine a Pepsi please.


If this conversation continues to get any more heated, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask a Mod to move it to the Open Forum...

It occurs to me to mention something that's a sort of pet peeve of mine. I had to deal with it when talking with people about the recent honey bee die-off crisis, oddly enough; and I'll mention it here.

During the bee crisis specifically, Einstein was quoted as saying "If the honey bee ceased to exist, man would follow within 3 years." Various variations of the quote were given, all which basically said the same thing, and all attributed to good old Al.

One problem is, nowhere in any source or recording of Albert Einstein can anybody find those words, or any sentiment similar to that. Einstein, in REAL life, never seems to have said anything like that. But that's not the biggest problem with the quote.

The REAL problem with the quote is that Einstein was a physicist. So he was good at math, and good at physics - particularly of the obscure, quantum variety. He was NOT a biologist, or a climatologist, and I think I can safely say that he knew fuck-all about bees. Thus, even if Einstein HAD said something like the above, it would not be worthy of note, because he was talking of something about which he knew nothing at all. People do that all the time, and their words are not deserving of any note - yet people attribute some quote to Einstein and everybody is supposed to take it for sage wiseman's advice because "Einstein said it". Well, when it comes to honey bees, my brain can kick Einstein's brain's wrinkled ass up and down the street for hours. So there.

Same thing with this quote from the Lew Rockwell website. It is a quote that is attributed to Einstein all over the place, but never sourced, so it is questionable. But even if Einstein DID say that, he can kiss off. Einstein was never a politician, a sociologist, an anthropologist, or a mental health expert. Therefore, I really couldn't care less about his definition of "insanity". Besides, if he hadn't died in 1955, he would know what professors of quantum physics (his area of speciality, remember) know now: that at the subatomic level, doing the same thing over and over again CAN, in fact, net different results each time.

Nyah!

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#257841 - 10/25/08 05:36 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: melliferal]
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As usual, those of us that Do the Dew are left to settle for the better of two evils. I guess I'll have a Pepsi please.


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#257844 - 10/25/08 05:40 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: M3]
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I like Dr. Pepper myself. Oddly enough, you can't seem to get it in all parts of the country, and some places try to give you an inferior knock-off known as "Mr. Pibb". Ecckkkk!

So where does Royal Crown Cola fit into the debate of Coca-Cola and Pepsi? I loved RC Cola when I could find it.

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#257862 - 10/25/08 06:22 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: EGL]
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RC brand is not welcome, you can't even request it to be available, well, you can, but you'll be ridiculed and mocked, or, at the least, considered a "fringe" consumer.


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#257877 - 10/25/08 07:11 PM Re: Coke or Pepsi, Which Brand to Drink on November 4 [Re: Hauser]
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How about Coke's short-lived entry into the energy soda market with the blue trim on the bottle? They were still just giving them away here a few months ago. But one of my favorite sodas of all time is an off-brand out of Detroit. Faygo's Rock & Rye flavor, a combination of a cola and a cream soda, rocks. Anyone else from out there remember Towne Club? How abot Tab? Dad's Root Beer or Barq's? They both made cream soda too.

So there are plenty of alternatives to just the big two in soda pop. In politics, I'll stick with the Clinton Democrats.

Mark

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