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#25760 - 09/29/06 12:42 AM why cant i go back so sad
sabata Offline
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had a good day at work..got home turned on the tv..found festival train 1970..on brought back such fond memories..when i was stoned all of the time..not a care in the world..things are so different now..work to surive .nothing else..the days of the 60s and 70s were the best..saw janis on this program she lived drunk all of the time until she went out...i miss that..responsibality..sucks...ok sorry Steve


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#25761 - 09/29/06 12:44 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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all of the great ones died back then..janis hendrix..jim morrison..and more


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#25762 - 09/29/06 01:23 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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Steve,

No need to feel sorry bro. It's your post - say whatever you want and whatever you feel! ;\)

As a child of the 60s I look back on that period with some nostalgia too. But I do that simply because I was taking no responsibility for my life and didn't care what happened to me. It was an almost totally care-free existence for awhile, and sure, I guess we all yearn for a bit of that again.

That said, what kind of life was it for the people you name? Janis was a junkie, drunk on Southern Comfort most of the time, and an extremely unhappy woman with zero self-esteem and hardly any real friends. Morrison? - a violent alcoholic. Hendrix? - probably the best guitarist ever but a lost soul easily exploited by others and eventually a burnout on acid and speed.

I think what we reacted to as teenagers and young men was the public image used to sell records and promote concerts. These people were all made to look blissfully happy and living the good life, but my guess is that most of them weren't.

But enough of that - the illusion is one I still like to linger over sometimes ... before I get back to real life! \:\)

I don't think people like our parents worked less hard than we do now, do you? But perhaps it's easier now to become disillusioned with our jobs and lives. If that's how you feel, can you do anything to change that? A different job, for example? Or less radical, try to make more time for yourself in your life. We DO have the right to live at least part of our lives for ourselves, as opposed to struggling 24/7 for everyone else.

Much California Dreamin',
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
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#25763 - 09/29/06 02:11 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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thanks larry guess i was felling sorry for myself..i know what kind of those people had.just figured they dealt with the crap for a short time and was gone...no more pain


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#25764 - 09/29/06 03:17 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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Steve,

No problem. You are stating an issue so the question is what to do about it. I LOVE to reminisce about the 60s and some of the stuff I did as a student and in San Francisco. I just wish my parents would stop showing my kids the photos! ;\)

That's all fine, but it's not enough, is it? That's why I was asking about things you might think of to make your life feel like less of a dead routine. Believe me, it is possible and it can make all the difference in the world without too much hassle.

Give it some thought.

Much love,
Larry

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Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
(Woody Guthrie)

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#25765 - 09/29/06 11:06 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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good question larry..havent figured that out yet..i have been a little content recently.. this was a bad mood..just came out of nowhere. i need routine to keep things straight in my life..maybe to much routine..i dont sway from it.ridgid if my routine changes a little i am freaked.i am not spontanious...maybe these thoughts was trying to break free of the routine...yet in my routine i feel safe..i do have a good job i feel i am payed fair..and money makes me feel secure..allthought i do have a problem spending money to feel good...i can sit back and say i made it this far..amazing.....all by myself.....my bosses at work know of my incest..they are suportive..with my crazey thinking..yet i dont think they realize how much differnt i am from the other workers...but they do try to give me space..at lunch everyone eats at one area i never do that i eat by myself..i dont have much to say..i dont feel equal...my t said everyone is at a certin level and i see myself at a lesser level....well sorry to rant on thanks steve


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#25766 - 09/29/06 12:01 PM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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Hey, we live in a chaotic World that is almost out of control. Life in the 60s was so much less hectic.

How did we do without road rage, daily killings, people, not computers doing the work, where did it all go wrong.

Its OK to reminisce, I love it too,

ste

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#25767 - 09/29/06 05:34 PM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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i guess i am too young to hold too much feeling for those days. born in 65, i was molested in 70 or 71. the most exciting part of my whole youth was playing sex games with one person or another. i really didnt develope awareness until the late 70's, and by then all the naivity had kind of died. the reality of everything came crashing down on our heads. i grew up in the 80's.

when faced with recovery and all the pain that brings, i think it is natural to long for your past. in my case, i look back like that on my youth when i was running and cycling. those are my glory days, days that i can overlook the pain i now know was lurking behind those fonde memories.

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#25768 - 09/29/06 07:42 PM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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Hey Steve --

I totally relate on the working to survive drudge . . . but change is always possible. Sometimes security is what we need, and sometimes we can take a risk.

I was born in the 70's by weed smoking, commune living hippies. They were really fucked up, totally negligent taking the kids to all their parties and letting run wild while they drank around the pool by day.

Lots of child-sex-abuse went on. One of my memories is during the day with my dad's friend and his son: while everyone was outside drinking rose in the sun.

So, I don't think of it as a conscious era, although that is strictly from my experience. I am sure there are kids being raised that way now.

There are a million ways to live a life: so remember -- now you have a 1000 choices!

Cheers,

Jonathon


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#25769 - 09/30/06 01:11 AM Re: why cant i go back so sad
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i was born in 51 i probley parteyed with some of those hippies...i looked at that time as being stoned all of the time...no responsiblities...i am sorry jonathon you had to go through this ...i say a lot of childern around places i went to to get high...but at that time i never gave it a thought as to what the childern was dealing with..asi hadnt even realized my incest it was still burried..just couldnt figure out why i was so different..only took me40 years to realize what my problem was..and start the healing journey steve


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