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#257751 - 10/25/08 11:04 AM Re: Voting [Re: Roofus]
Hauser Offline
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Registered: 11/12/05
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Hi Roofus. I want you to know that I found absolutely nothing wrong or invalid with that post you deleted. Just wanted to tell you that.


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#257767 - 10/25/08 12:16 PM Re: Voting [Re: Hauser]
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Thanks, appreciate that. I guess I just didn't want to experience backlash from persons with extremely differing viewpoints. I don't do well with criticism. wink


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#257794 - 10/25/08 02:23 PM Re: Voting [Re: Roofus]
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Respectful disagreement is part of the human condition. We all come from different backgrounds, experiences, and situations, hence, none of us are impartial to what we want from our elected officials. However, I'm happy to say that you will notice that even though Trucker51 and I disagree on where to cast our votes, he and I are still friends, hell, we just went out for dinner last night, but this is in no way divisive in our friendship.

A thing to keep in mind when we get all defensive and jumpy when discussing politics; Government is force, it is the threat or use of force to impose one group's will, upon another group. And that this is done because it seemingly can't be done through cooperation, persuasion, or other peaceful means. So............
in other words, if our difference of opinion was merely that you preferred red-colored cars as opposed to my preference of blue-colored cars, why would I get upset about it? But when we have a difference of opinion about how I should live my life, spend my money, who I can hire, who I can fire, who I can marry, what I can buy, what I can put in my body, etc, etc, etc, THEN the opinions start to actually have a direct effect on the other's life, AND THAT is why politics can be a touchy/sensitive subject. Just thought I would try to put this in perspective....


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#257811 - 10/25/08 03:09 PM Re: Voting [Re: Roofus]
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Registered: 06/12/08
Posts: 1755
Loc: Mojave Desert, Ca
Hauser,

Facist or socialist.
I was talking about the U.S. elections.

That's alot of the problems with our political sitations these days is that we would rather call each other names and try to pigeon hole the other. Rather then look for solutions to our common problems.Until we try to find some common ground to work from we will never address what is really important.

NO vote is ever wasted if it is casted.

MIKE

Ps- I thought that Denver was in the U.S. not the Soviet Union?
The US has not used force against it's own citizens since it invade and conqueored the south in the Civil War.

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#257821 - 10/25/08 03:48 PM Re: Voting [Re: Hauser]
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Thanks Hauser,

I appreciate your words, and am very proud of my vote. I suppose I've just been feeling rather vulnerable recently because of some things that have happened. I've purposefully stayed very quiet in here since becoming a member... since I started coming period. Sometimes I feel like its just best to keep my mouth shut so that I don't end up exposing myself and getting hurt. It's been eggshells around here lately ya' know.

Anyway... thanks so much, I completely agree with you. Will try to let my voice be heard a little more loudly.


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