Ever wanted to make a hyoooooooooj generalization?
Or say something really profound & even downright right about where you think we as a race took a wrong turn?

Here's your chance to voice your opinion & hog the soapbox as long as you want.
Yes you can co-opt something you read somewhere as long as you add 25% of yerself.

C (as in consumerism will figure greatly in my reply)

I'm pretty convinced that the problems the society faces stem from Evolution and the Judicial branches corruption of the rest of our American society.

For America...the first time we elected a president based on his suitability as a beer buddy.

In general: When 'commen courtesy' become uncommen, and when making excuses for bad behavior become more popular then taking responsibility for it.

When we locked up the food and started charging for it

DING DING DING DING DING

ahem... uh could you say a bit more?

It was the very first time a person placed they're worth greater than another's.

Classism began, our first and worst mistake

When the Coca-Cola company replaced REAL Coke with the "new formula". Then they brought back "Coke Classic"....then suddenly they both disappeared and who the hell knows what kind of Coke we got today!

There's always been classes...even among hunter-gatherer peoples. The ones that provided the food and/or went to battle were the leaders, the rest served them. I'm guessing even cave people had leaders of the group.

If we were all equal who would make the hard decisions and take the initiative to progress? lol

Anyway I think the idea of the "good old days" is make believe. Times have always been hard, and messed up and there's always been evil people and good people mixed. We're not any more worse people now than in the past, we just have different challenges and messed up things as times change.

Just what I think at least.

When the first person who had power chose to use that power as a club rather than a tool.

When Political Correctness became a muzzle for the intelligent and respectful exange of opinions. No debate, no new concepts, no new concepts, no progress. Androids we be all!

originally had one thought
now have what i think to be 2 key contributors, neither is a complete answer but really there can be no singular true clear answer to a question such as this; really liked what mike had to say about worth too.

1. when farts became something to be ashamed of
2. when the word liability & its meaning was invented

to expand on the first in a more serious light; when the idea was hatched that we as a human were not good enough and required improvement. consumerism especially since the dawn of television has been telling us how we should be, think, act, build, provide, buy, spend.

ciao now brown cow
~B

* MAY TRIGGER NO-FUN-DAMENTALISTS

Wow
Great to read your views & thoughts on this everyone

Marinan
I think evolution is stuck in Homo Economicus or Religious Superiorus

MemoryVault
Dubya hoists a few with Harper up here in Canada, eh
(also wanted to say nice to see you again & that your "voice" has been missed)

ak
Manners!
Yes please... and thank you.
You are always most welcome.

mogigo
So much to what you say besides worth & classes.
We became less self reliant on one level.
Also lost sight of the seasonality of food items by being able to import from other countries at any time of the year.
ENTITLEMENT!! "What do you mean you don't carry my brand??"
Also turning everything into a commodity
I love all critters & it pains me seeing people with pets bred specifically as an accessory
Am gonna bite my tongue here
For now

Barkabus
I'm a Pepsi man mahself, but if you can't count on Coke.... nuff said

Andy
Classes & leaders... yep.
Seems to be part of our very being.

Trish
The first person who used power as a club rather than a tool was possibly the original BUTTDUST too?

ROCK ON!

joel
Hell yeah fellow mandroid!
I am all for dialogue, heated though it can be.

Frost
1) Also like thou shalt deodorize your humanity. *(did Jesus fart or should that be another thread?)
2) THE LAW... ikes eesh & aye carumba eh?


thanks everyone & feel free to keep the dialogue going
its anybody's soapbox

When wealth and possessions became more important than happiness.

when Elvis Presley died
(thats a joke by the way)

When we, as people, began acting as how we think is expected in a changing society, instead of to follow conscience whether it is 'cool' or not.

VN

Don't you dare. Ask for soapboxes and then deny us your's. What, can't we handle it

maybe Craig, but I sure want to know

Am I talking at ya


but I sure do love ya
Mike

I got 4 cats. Can you guess why

we're falling from our posture of civility? oh, i hadn't noticed... i thought we were just receding.

don't worry mrs fletcher, it's only a dream, or a movie, or a commercial even.

[in the meantime, a more serious response is forthcoming pending the completion of the third trimester of its gestation period, which is scheduled to arrive about the same time that the ball of civilization strikes the ground we walk on...... be mindful of the broken glass ] happy newer year everyone! births and deaths and whoooyah!

in the meantime, where was i? .....