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#245087 - 08/16/08 08:45 PM Re: Boy Scouts and CSA [Re: BJK]
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Bryan,

Originally Posted By: BJK
Larry, I did write a thesis about a year ago that was never printed about child abuse arrest cases. I don't have the thesis handy, and I'm too lazy to do redundant work, but my findings throughout several studies were that the number of arrests in abuse cases is actually much higher than 3.3.%. However, the important number is how many convictions result from those arrests, and that number was less than 10%. Keep in mind...this is a percentage of a percentage, meaning that less than 1% of all abusers are ever convicted of any crime.

Yes, the interpretation of statistics in areas like this is a minefield, and the impression one receives often depends on what questions are being asked.

I'm not surprised that the arrest rate is much higher than 3.3% now. The Abel study is over 20 years old, but I just haven't seen more recent work. It's great you did some thesis work on this and I hope you will publish your results.

Much love,
Larry

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#245101 - 08/16/08 09:55 PM Re: Boy Scouts and CSA [Re: roadrunner]
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Well, I tried to get an article version of that thesis pusblished in our local newspaper, a newspaper that regularly publishes editorials that I have written. Their response was that the topic matter was too controversial and too far fetched to be believed even though it was well cited. This was about nine months ago.

Bryan

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#251315 - 09/26/08 08:43 PM Re: Boy Scouts and CSA [Re: BJK]
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Boy Scouts Lawsuit Opens Secret Files

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/28/eveningnews/main3213145.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=3214975n

"The first time I was molested was at the age of either six or seven," Stewart told CBS News Correspondent Sandra Hughes. "I was molested all the way up until I was 18 years old."

Stewart and his brother Tom were sexually abused by their assistant Scout master.

"The nightmares are still very real, even 25 to 30 years later," Matt said.

Former troop leader Bruce Phelps admitted under oath to having sexual contact with one and then the other.

Allen

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#251317 - 09/26/08 08:48 PM Re: Boy Scouts and CSA [Re: pufferfish]
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#251471 - 09/27/08 03:53 PM Re: Boy Scouts and CSA [Re: M3]
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Allen,

Thanks for posting these stories, which I had not seen. But it's a good idea to remember that in many cases the abuse was covered up right at the local level and never got into the BSA central files. We will never know how many boys were harmed - just that it's many more than are recorded in those files.

Much love,
Larry

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