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#240957 - 07/29/08 09:47 AM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: Still]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 09/25/07
Posts: 762
Loc: NOTHERN COLORADO
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Rob, You also have me thinking about my perp. brother. Like Larry posted b/4 me, I have/had no desire or any thoughts regarding forgiveness toward my brother. I am having a hard time trying to understand how he could have used and abused me, now over 40 some years ago, and not ever mentioning or even a hint to me that he was sorry for what he did. He calls me at Christmas and for my birthday every year. Never a mention of the past. Well, next month after I confront him, I am sure the tables will be turned.
But, I am now thinking more about letting go and putting my trust in God. In the end he does have to answer to God. You definitely have my mind thinking. Perhaps after I confront I will be able to let go.
I am really happy for you. Ken
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#240994 - 07/29/08 11:57 AM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: KENKEN]
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Registered: 03/26/08
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I am really happy for you too Robbie!
Best, Dawg
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I can say unequivocally that the lie of "To truly heal you must first forgive" has derailed more victims than the abusers themselves. Andrew Vachs, 2003
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#241039 - 07/29/08 01:44 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: hogan_dawg]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 08/01/07
Posts: 1526
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I have to point out again what an awesome thread this is.
Yes, I do think that forgiveness is an essential part of the recovery process, but I have also come to realize that forgiveness simply cannot be forced. In order to get to this point, we need to deal with our anger. We need to vent it...let it out...force it out. One day, we will wake up and realize that the anger is all gone, and what's left in its place is forgiveness.
Bryan
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What the world needs now Is some new words of wisdom Like la la la la la la la la la. -David Lowery
Having a friend who will keep a secret for you is worthless compared to a friend who won't keep a secret from you.
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#241075 - 07/29/08 02:56 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: Still]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 08/01/07
Posts: 1526
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Yep...I sure can, Rob. The most important one of all.
As well as the most difficult.
Bryan
Edited by BJK (07/29/08 02:57 PM)
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Revenge is nothing more than another way of perpetuating abuse.
What the world needs now Is some new words of wisdom Like la la la la la la la la la. -David Lowery
Having a friend who will keep a secret for you is worthless compared to a friend who won't keep a secret from you.
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#241081 - 07/29/08 03:15 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: roadrunner]
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Member MaleSurvivor
Registered: 08/01/07
Posts: 1526
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Rob,
I have to add something. Look at this thread. At least two people have responded here saying that you have changed their perspective. By my count, that is two people with whom you have made a positive influence.
I think if you look, you'll eventually begin to find that there is someone there that deserves to be forgiven. He's done a lot of good in his life, even with only this thread, and at some point, that has to start outweighing the bad.
But, you know....that's also the one part of this journey you have to do on your own.
Bryan
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Revenge is nothing more than another way of perpetuating abuse.
What the world needs now Is some new words of wisdom Like la la la la la la la la la. -David Lowery
Having a friend who will keep a secret for you is worthless compared to a friend who won't keep a secret from you.
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#241087 - 07/29/08 03:37 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: roadrunner]
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Registered: 11/23/03
Posts: 144
Loc: Elmira, NY
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Thanks Robbie for the post. I absolutely love what you have done for yourself. To me, you have reached the final stage of your recovery. Forgiveness is what I have been searching for. I want to completely forgive all of my perps, all of them. I have been trying to do that.
All of my situations are different from each other and it is hard for me to how to FEEL the forgiveness because I am clouded with feelings that I do not understand. i can say that I forgive, but to actually feel it is difficult and I don't know how to do that yet.
God is good and never bad. Who am I that I can hold onto any anger and/or resentments?
I'm really glad that you forgave everyone. I am constantly reaching for that goal, and really mean it and feel it. I don't know how you did it, but you did. By God's grace, I will, too.
God bless, Robbie, and everyone who posted. John, The Music Man.
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#241088 - 07/29/08 03:40 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: MusicMan]
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Moderator Emeritus MaleSurvivor
Registered: 06/19/04
Posts: 7818
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Rob,
I'm learning a lot from your example here with this. I'm hoping to get there some day myself with those from my past, and seeing you reach that point has given me a lot of hope for myself. Thanks for sharing this with us, it means a lot.
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#241114 - 07/29/08 06:19 PM
Re: I FORGIVE THEM
[Re: EGL]
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Administrator Emeritus MaleSurvivor
Registered: 05/02/05
Posts: 22045
Loc: Carlisle, PA
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Rob,
Man, am I ever learning from this thread! So much to think about. Thanks again for sharing this courageous step with us. You have taken one of the oldest and most frequent topics on the Discussion Board and totally owned it, and with such clarity and peace. I think that's what moves me most about it.
Much love, Larry
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Nobody living can ever stop me As I go walking my freedom highway. Nobody living can make me turn back: This land was made for you and me. (Woody Guthrie)
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