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#238946 - 07/19/08 12:42 PM Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Australia
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Pope Benedict XVI apologizes for the 'evil' of clergy sex abuse in Australia

By ROHAN SULLIVAN
The Associated Press
SYDNEY, Australia

Pope Benedict XVI said he was "deeply sorry' for the sexual abuse of children by Australia's Catholic clergy, delivering a strongly-worded apology Saturday that described their acts as evil and a grave betrayal of trust.

"I would like to pause to acknowledge the shame which we have all felt as a result of the sexual abuse of minors by some clergy and religious in this country," Benedict said during an address at a Mass in Sydney.

"I am deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the victims have endured. I assure them as their pastor that I too share in their suffering," he said.

"Those responsible for these evils must be brought to justice."

Benedict has expressed regret before about the clergy abuse scandal that has rocked the church in recent years — notably during a visit to the United States in April when he also met privately with a small number of victims. But the language of Saturday's apology was stronger than the pope's comments in the United States.

Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said the pope added the words that he was deeply sorry to the original text given to reporters because he wanted to "personally underline" that he felt close to the victims.

There was no immediate word whether Benedict would meet with victims of clergy abuse during his Australia trip, which ends Monday.

Anthony Foster, the father of two Australian girls who were allegedly raped by a Catholic priest as children, has been publicly seeking a meeting with Benedict during his visit. He said he was disappointed the pope's remarks repeated the church's expressions of regret but offered no practical assistance for victims.

"What we haven't had is an unequivocal, unlimited practical response that provides for all the victims for their lifetime," he said. "The practical response needs to include both financial help ... and psychological help."

Support groups for victims of church abuse in Australia, whose numbers are not known but who activists say are in the thousands, accuse the church of covering up of the scale of the problem and fighting compensation claims lodged in civil courts.

"Sorry is not enough. Victims want action, not just words," the Broken Rites group said in a statement posted Saturday on its Web site.

The pontiff is in Australia to lead hundreds of thousands of pilgrims in the church's World Youth Day, a global celebration meant to inspire a new generation of Catholics.

During his appearances in Australia, Benedict has spoken about the need to strengthen traditional Christian values including charity and chastity, and decried the selfishness and greed of today's "cult of material possessions."

In his remarks Saturday, the pope said the sexual abuse scandal had badly damaged the church.

"These misdeeds, which constitute so grave a betrayal of trust, deserve unequivocal condemnation," he said. "They have caused great pain, they have damaged the church's witness."

About 500 people protested Saturday for what they called the pope's antiquated and discriminatory views, holding a contest for the T-shirt that would most annoy Roman Catholics and chanting: "The pope is wrong, put a condom on!"

The boisterous protest at a square in the city's center included inflated condoms floating above the crowd and some participants dressed as nuns and priests. They listened to speeches by activists supporting sex education and safe sex practices at Taylor Square.

"It's good that people protest against the pope's homophobia and misogyny," Alex Bainbridge of the Socialist Alliance told the crowd. "We don't want a war against sex, we want a war against sexually transmitted infections. We're here for the people who could be saved if they had adequate sex education and access to condoms."

Police on horseback and on foot patrolled the site at Taylor Square, but there were no signs of trouble.

Papal apologies have been few in the long history of the church, mostly confined to correcting historical errors such as condemning Galileo for maintaining that the Earth is not the center of the universe or asking forgiveness for the sins of Christians over the centuries.

But Benedict also said he was "deeply sorry" regarding remarks on Islam he made in Germany in 2006 that linked the religion to violence and set off a fury across the Muslim world.

Pope John Paul II's plan for a sweeping apology timed for the new millennium in 2000 drew resistance from some cardinals. But John Paul went ahead, asking forgiveness for the sins of Catholics through the ages, including wrongs inflicted on Jews, women and minorities.

Among other apologies, John Paul, during a 1992 visit to Senegal asked forgiveness for Christians involved in the slave trade and during a 1995 visit to the Czech Republic for violence by Catholics against Protestants during the 16th century.

Benedict will join tens of thousands of young Catholics for a couple of hours later Saturday at an open-air vigil held at a horse race track in Sydney. He will lead a Mass on Sunday before a crowd estimated at more than 200,000 that will mark the culmination of the World Youth Day festival.

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#238987 - 07/19/08 05:00 PM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Australia [Re: Barkabus]
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I am disgusted with this Pope who covered up child abuse for so many decades.
No man of God has the right to put the church before the welfare of children who are involved in it's spiritual midst.

Say sorry as many times as you please, but don't bite your tongue when you really need to feel deeply regretful of your past mistakes in covering up the church to satisfy your own goal/s.

The Church is meant to protect the children and all parishoners from evil.
It is totally unthinkable that a child can be abused by an institution of God, and even more unthinkable that this man covered it up.

I cannot think who a child can trust, if he cannot trust a man of God, and even more evil and unthinkable that a future Pope could be complicit in covering up the church.

I am spiritually a man of God, yet I see the Judas amongst the heirarchy of the church today.
He needs to firstly apologize for his past deeds, but even then, it will not be admissable to God, to cover up abuse of God's children.

How? Could he possibly cover up the past, with a humble apology, without expressing his own remorse for his past!!!

It's called confession.

A solemn way of asking God to save his soul from a life where he has made terrible judgements in order to save the Church, without thought of the terrible deeds that his church has bestowed on the many abused children.

He really needs to fathom out whether his position within the Catholic Church is truly tenable in God's eyes.
I think NOT,

ste

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#239515 - 07/22/08 10:49 AM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Australia [Re: reality2k4]
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Ste,

That was my thought when I read the article. Talk is cheap. Let's see action - that's what's really needed to deal with this scandal. I wonder how realistic it is to expect justice and a solution from the author of a good part of the cover-up.

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#239521 - 07/22/08 11:26 AM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Austra [Re: roadrunner]
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Originally Posted By: roadrunner


Talk is cheap. Let's see action , that's what's really needed to deal with this scandal.



Having waited 47 years for Justice. I am uplifted by the fact the Catholic Church is even speaking about the Clergy Sexual Abuse Scandal. I think the Pope provided us with some excellent sound bites we can use against him.

Tom

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#240226 - 07/25/08 08:49 PM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Australia [Re: reality2k4]
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Reality2k4 i don't want to say this the wrong way or analize to much however i can only tell you that this pope DID NOT cover up the sexual abuse he was only a cardinal when this happened yet it does not make it right.....i see your point and i sympathize with you as i am a survivor of CSA.

Pope John however i will be real careful as to what i have to say about him....this so called man of god KNEW ALL ABOUT the abuse going on all over the united states therefore do you think it's a coincedence that he suffered BEFORE he died....."cover-ups" are worse then the crime itself because it perpetuates more crime and then of course it has a ripple effect that no one can / will recover from.I too,am disgusted....afterall how can you not be ....

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#240341 - 07/26/08 11:56 AM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Austra [Re: thecoopstah]
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One doesn't have to be Pope to cover the abuse up. *shrug* Any clergy that knows and says nothing is covering up, and should face consequences.

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#240422 - 07/26/08 05:42 PM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Austra [Re: AndyJB2005]
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It should be noted that the good Cardinal, before he became Pope, was the Vatican's chief enforcer of it's policy of excommunicating any Roman Catholic who dared to report the abuses outside of the church hierarchy.

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#240633 - 07/27/08 11:15 PM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Austra [Re: WalkingSouth]
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CardinalBeranard Law here in boston is a no good mother#$%^ who destroyed so many kids lives throughout the entire state of massachusetts.

He transferred these pedophile preist from parish to parish to molest yet again more children and if that's not the ultimate cover up and a sick way of ignoring the reaility of what was going on then i guess from the way the church or lack thereof should be maintained with an iron fist.........civil law and cannon law must be one in the same and stop this shit about hiding and covering up amongst the laundry list of hierarchy within a system that is as corrupt as the day is long then i dont know what is.

Cardinal Law will get his one day , you watch.

Coop


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#240748 - 07/28/08 05:22 PM Re: Pope Apologizes for Clergy Sex Abuse in Austra [Re: thecoopstah]
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Coop, as an abused boy myself, the church was my Bastian in life, and I respected those who gave up their lives to serve their God.

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Reality2k4 i don't want to say this the wrong way or analize to much however i can only tell you that this pope DID NOT cover up the sexual abuse he was only a cardinal when this happened yet it does not make it right.....i see your point and i sympathize with you as i am a survivor of CSA.


He is an impostor, and a man of little credibility to hold the will of God on Earth.
He would have better served the Church by outing abuse in the past, and not trying to make himself look like he is shedding crocodile tears now, for his past mistakes.

It seems that anybody can lie to God, and be held in such reverance.
He has gone against the commandments big style, and liars are always caught out.

We need to OUT those who cover-up abuse, and not revere their actions in this World.
He makes a mockery of the Church, and will be seen through history as just another Jackal.

I am sorry, but I cannot even look into this mans eyes, because he shows deceit, and authority, when he is not in the position to do so under God's laws.

I am just glad that the Pope's of the past, never seemed to be so unChristian as this Pope.
And I am also glad that I am not some young kid reading the Pope's past views on covering up something that is deeply, and profoundly difficult for a child to perceive,

ste

P.S., maybe he can make his own commandments on Earth, and not stick to the ten Commandments of the Church



Edited by reality2k4 (07/28/08 05:32 PM)
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