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#237857 - 07/13/08 01:28 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: testingWaters]
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So, how about posting some links that provide that Christianity is not intolerant of atheism?

Otherwise, I see no other purpose for this thread than to further flame an already ugly situation.

Bryan



Edited by BJK (07/13/08 01:31 PM)
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#237858 - 07/13/08 01:37 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: testingWaters]
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But TestingWaters, you said in your post here that your practice was secular:

http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=237063&page=1&fpart=2

Hence, as secular, there are no spiritual beliefs. So I can't have tromped on your spiritual beliefs because they do not exist in a secular practice.

I appealed to your ability to interpret my words without ego, to interpret my remarks in a way that gave you peace, and that, I thought, was high flattery.

Please do accept my apologies for being presumptuous.

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#237860 - 07/13/08 01:38 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: hogan_dawg]
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Bryan you asked

"So, how about posting some links that provide that Christianity is not intolerant of atheism?"

Ok I will:

http://www.firstunitariantoronto.org/index.htm

How's that? Atheists are welcomed if you do a little searching they are welcomed 'EXPLICITLY' and by name.



Edited by hogan_dawg (07/13/08 01:40 PM)
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#237861 - 07/13/08 01:41 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: hogan_dawg]
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All,
Perhaps everyone here should dialogue without ego.

Perhaps we should all focus on what we have in common.

Perhaps we should all practice the 'Love' that is at the core of so many religious and spiritual traditions.

Gerald

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#237862 - 07/13/08 01:46 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: Gerald2007]
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Hogan, I am very happy that Gerald posted this and I agree. But I would like to make very clear in a non-judgmental way - your logical walk-through of my own beliefs "Hence, as secular, there are no spiritual beliefs. So I can't have tromped on your spiritual beliefs because they do not exist in a secular practice." is *inappropriate* and wholly contrasts what I had just posted requesting that we all be careful of not doing. Finito. Have a great weekend.


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#237863 - 07/13/08 01:46 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: Gerald2007]
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Here we go:

http://www.firstunitariantoronto.org/membership.htm

"As a liberal religious movement, Unitarianism attracts independent thinkers into community who embrace differing beliefs within a context of mutual respect and shared values. We believe this context supports both strong individuals and a healthy, vibrant community. First Unitarian is a place where theists (believers in a personal God) and non-theists, Christians, Jews and Buddhists, the rational and the spiritual, can commune in an environment of common purpose and mutual respect. For parents of young children, we provide an alternative to more traditional approaches to religious education. And First Unitarian provides a liberal alternative to Metropolitan Community Church as a religious home for gay and lesbian individuals and families."

They're not my church, per se, but they're decidedly accepting atheists.

Does that suffice?



Edited by hogan_dawg (07/13/08 01:51 PM)
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#237864 - 07/13/08 01:50 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: hogan_dawg]
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Testingwaters how can I insult your Ferrari if you say you don't own one?

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#237865 - 07/13/08 01:51 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: hogan_dawg]
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Hogan, you are being aggressive. I am sending this thread to the mods.


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#237866 - 07/13/08 01:51 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: hogan_dawg]
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Interestingly, if you had followed our previous discussion, I'd already stated that a unitarian belief system does not view Christ as a deity, and therefore does not meet the modern definition of "Christianity".

Bryan

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Like la la la la la la la la la.
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#237867 - 07/13/08 01:53 PM Re: Many Christian groups accept gays [Re: testingWaters]
hogan_dawg Offline
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Or you could not send a thread to the mods, and show me your Ferrari.

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