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#231589 - 06/18/08 03:08 AM WARNING: The Butterfly Effect
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This is not a good film by any stretch of the imagination. However... if you have any negative experiences with dissociation, and especially if any form of "mind control" was involved in your abuse (FUCK YOU if you think programming, RA and mind control is bogus or fantasy, btw), I strongly urge you to avoid this movie like the plague. Best, TW

ps. I watched it several nights ago and it was a HUGE mistake.


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#231602 - 06/18/08 04:37 AM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: testingWaters]
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Yes. Although I thought it was a very good movie, it is also a highly triggering movie for survivors of sexual abuse.

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#231603 - 06/18/08 04:41 AM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: BJK]
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Dude, the depictions of mental illness in this movie are simply obscene. I am genuinely curious - how could you overlook that to find a "very good movie"? (handcuffs, violence, murder, etc)


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#231665 - 06/18/08 01:51 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: testingWaters]
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Originally Posted By: testingWaters
Dude, the depictions of mental illness in this movie are simply obscene. I am genuinely curious - how could you overlook that to find a "very good movie"? (handcuffs, violence, murder, etc)


The movie affected me in a very emotional way. To me, the best movies are the best because of the emotion they stir up inside of me. Sometimes, this includes emotions like repulsion and shock.

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#231675 - 06/18/08 02:25 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: BJK]
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I saw this one awhile back and found it pretty triggery. Guys who have issues with dissociation and mind games will definitely want to avoid it, though yes, I thought it brought up some good issues.

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#231701 - 06/18/08 04:54 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: roadrunner]
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Sorry if I was a little aggressive - as you can ascertain it really got to me. I just felt like 1) the movie really played into the notion that people who dissociate are capital C crazy and 2) SPOILER ALERT the end of the film actually plays into the idea that the protagonist had no right to exist and actually would be better off killing himself. Not to mention that the perp in this film is portrayed as making nothing more than a one-time, drunken act of bad judgment.

It really, really got to me...

I thought Donnie Darko (from roughly the same milieu) was a much smarter, equally charged film that dealt with alot of the same issues.


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#231706 - 06/18/08 05:49 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: testingWaters]
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I liked that imagery and thought experiments in this film, but there were HUGE plot holes and I simply wasn't buying into the notion of someone's senses being warped into a (seemingly) contrived way, for (seemingly) the sake of expedient stories and screenplay.

They could have gone without the make-believe time-travel scenarios and simply made a straight-forward drama, while keeping all the ugly elements of abuse and such, but, ....... well......we can't just have a film with good character development and no sensationalist special effects now, it wouldn't sell tickets in an American movie theatre.


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#231908 - 06/19/08 02:18 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: Hauser]
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I loved the movie...but that's just me. I'm pretty chill with all movies.


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#241019 - 07/29/08 01:52 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: Nyjah]
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I just saw this movie a week or so ago. I liked it, although it really hit me hard. What with the events of the kids past and then the mothers miscarriages (2 huge triggers for me) I was a huge mess by the time this movie ended.


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#241212 - 07/29/08 10:19 PM Re: WARNING: The Butterfly Effect [Re: JustScott]
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Oddly enough, the hardest part of the movie for me was when that kid beat the snot out of that dude in the movie theater.

Yeah, that was me at that age...except I didn't always win.

Bryan

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