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#220256 - 04/24/08 09:12 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Freedom49]
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I'm just too lazy. \:D


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#220282 - 04/24/08 10:29 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Freedom49]
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NAMBLA HUH.........I had better be real careful what i want to say, and what i actually say about these sick bastards who can actually have the audacity to talk about such sick fuckin perversion and say "love" is what the molesting pigs and scum of the earth do to our precious children.

Male survivor REALLY NEEDS TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER contacting this station and demand if "they" have the chance to "speak out" on what their twisted fuckin manipulitive and coercison ways then MS as a whole needs to be recognized for the very survival and safe enviroment this nurturing site offers.

I am so fuckin seething right now and yet all "WE" can do as survivors is sit back and be re-victimized all over again.....how nice is that ....it makes my skin crawl NAMBLA...( what a sick sick perverted orginization they have NO RIGHTS they have no freedom of speech to hide behind.It's a bumch of bullshit.

Coop


PS: i actually live about 20 minutes from boston.....if anyone is seriously thinking about going ...let me know.....i'll be that voice.

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#220283 - 04/24/08 10:31 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: thecoopstah]
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how are we being re-victimized?


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#220311 - 04/25/08 01:03 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Jarrad]
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Ok NAMBLA can't have free speech, then immigrants, then the unemployed, then minorities, then anyone who disagrees with the states position. Think I'm exagerating? Look up "The Alien and Sedition Act" or read about the Japenese internment, or Sacco Venzetti, etc etc etc. The list goes on. They have the right to say whatever they what, however they should be limited on when and where they can say it. I think thats an apppropriate balance. Not complete freedom, but not censorship either.

And for the record, I hate NAMBLA as well, don't think I'm defending them, just their rights as Americans, not matter how much it makes me cringe.

And if they do touch, just read my posts on punishment for perps.



Edited by USFbull (04/25/08 01:03 AM)
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#220327 - 04/25/08 03:17 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: USFbull]
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NAMBLA.. Oh, yeah the Neanderthal Assholes for Manipulating Boys with Lies and Abuse..I THINK that's how it went. Something like that.

I think it's important that all that bs gets it's five minutes of fame..free speech works both ways which is what's great about it.
As long as all sides get heard, then it's hard to see the wackos winning the debate.

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#231430 - 06/17/08 04:34 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: blueshift]
JasonSmalls Offline
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Registered: 12/01/07
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whats NAMBLA? i tried to google it but parental controls blocked it.


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#231443 - 06/17/08 05:20 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: JasonSmalls]
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Registered: 05/20/08
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It is the North American Man/Boy Love Association. What they espouse is along the lines of the ancient Athenians. It is pretty much the radical opposite of the group viewpoint here.

TM

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#231444 - 06/17/08 05:22 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Trucker51]
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holy shit! is that even legal? wtf?


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#231453 - 06/17/08 06:32 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: JasonSmalls]
MemoryVault Offline
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Registered: 03/01/07
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The ancient Athenians weren't so hot, either--they didn't even pretend that the relationship was for the enjoyment of the boy. He was an object, as women were. A man may have written a poem about him, but never implying that he had a point of view.

In grad school, I used to be part of the North Eastern Modern Language Association. People looked at me funny whenever I said I was going to a NEMLA conference...



Edited by MemoryVault (06/17/08 06:32 AM)

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#231466 - 06/17/08 10:05 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: USFbull]
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How would you like to be the FBI agent that has go undercover to bust these perps? Poor guy.

A couple of decades ago the main-stream media exposed NAMBLA's existence and showed many of their live meetings (yes, they do/did in fact meet live). They use to exercise their "right" to assemble at public libraries. They would simply apply to public libraries (such as Boston Public) and would get a meeting room. The media showed many walk-in intrusions of their meetings with cameras running.

These fkrs would then cover their faces and practically crawl under the tables.

Originally Posted By: USFbull
Ok NAMBLA can't have free speech, then immigrants, then the unemployed, then minorities, then anyone who disagrees with the states position. Think I'm exaggerating? Look up "The Alien and Sedition Act" or read about the Japanese internment, or Sacco Vanzetti, etc etc etc. The list goes on. They have the right to say whatever they what, however they should be limited on when and where they can say it. I think thats an appropriate balance. Not complete freedom, but not censorship either.

And for the record, I hate NAMBLA as well, don't think I'm defending them, just their rights as Americans, not matter how much it makes me cringe.


In the USA, freedom of speech found/defined limitation through several recent cases; The most powerful and altering being statutory, regulatory and case precedent against anti-abortion activity. The anti-abortionist are severely limited in what, how and where they can communicate their message. What it all boils down to with their issue is that they make the people involved feel uncomfortable with their actions, careers and decisions.

First amendment rights are also limited by US Sup Ct decisions regarding child-porn (thank God!!!).

Recent anti-terrorism statutes and administrative regs provide for dramatic action against any individual who utter words that could be construed as threatening or indicate a conspiracy to do harm.

So there ARE in fact limits. NAMBLA could and should be limited similarly. We are in fact a nation of laws and rights. We also utilize "reasonable man" discernment regarding interpretation of these rights and laws.

The way I see it is that the NAMBLA org and its members could EASILY be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit (fill in a perp crime) . Just try and find a prosecutor with guts enough to do it.

They could also be constrained in their communications in ways identical to those used against the anti-abortionists.



(WOW...and I got through that without raging or criminal threatening....the meds must be working...Larry will be so proud)




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