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#224417 - 05/15/08 02:04 PM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: bardo213]
Calanthe Offline
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Interesting question and though it has been said by others in different ways here is what think I a man is.

A man is what you are.

Your actions are what tell others what kind of man you are.

A simple point on having the right equipment between your legs, I agree with it as far as it goes…But I must simply state I know men who do not have the standard issue between theirs legs and women who can pass as men from the waist or neck down…so see my first point. (and gee I love living in such a versatile and uncertain world)

In answer to one of the other questions asked by Lynch what makes you happy? I am going to narrow it down that what makes me happy about being a man?

Here goes…That I don’t have to sit down to take a piss …nuff said ….lol

Enjoy,

Scott

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#224451 - 05/15/08 07:29 PM . [Re: Calanthe]
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Edited by bardo213 (06/21/13 04:39 PM)

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#224482 - 05/15/08 10:58 PM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: bardo213]
istrong Offline
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 79
Loc: CT
Ok let me take a shot at it;
I should have learned through experience not to trust peopel.
*I trust anyways
I should have learned not to love or feel anymore.
*I still do with reckless abandon
I should have learned that the world is a dark and scary place.
*I stay optomistic every freakin day!
I should be mean because nice guys finish last.
*I'm nice anyways
I should have learned how to be a good little boy and be normal.
*BUT I've been forced to do to many things and I'm going to live life my own damn way!


So I guess Lynch, I'm the man I am today becasue of the things I didnt learn, or refused to learn.

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#224499 - 05/16/08 12:25 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: istrong]
mogigo Offline
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Quote:
I should be mean because nice guys finish last.
*I'm nice anyways


ahhh. but we ARE going to inherit the earth \:\)

That'll be cool

Stay strong
Mike

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#224722 - 05/17/08 12:34 PM . [Re: mogigo]
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Edited by bardo213 (06/21/13 04:39 PM)

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#230284 - 06/11/08 07:48 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: bardo213]
Sans Logos Offline
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Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 5791
Loc: in my own world in pittsburgh,...
very thought provoking question. it's the kind of question that invites people to look in the mirror of their souls and come up with more questions than answers.

'manliness' is a romanticized cultural ideal imposed on us from the day we are born. for me, being born at the point time that i was, i came to believe 'real' men naturally prefer blue, is heterosexually oriented, aspire to be jocks, have an urge to make war, is hairy and sweaty, is valued for his large genital equipment, has lots of testosterone, excels in sports, is superhuman; he embodies all the characteristics of gi joe, the marlboro man and ward cleaver. lest we forget, he is also trustworthy, loyal, helpful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. get the picture????

boy, i spent a lot of my life berating myself for not being able to measure down to that standard.

nowadays, having unburied myself from all that madness, i have come to allow myself a new model for aspiration: that a 'man' is a multi-dimensional person who has learned to transcend his own once accepted culturally imposed value system. in its place he has created another system within that functions to maintain balance between all of the dichotomies that he is challenged to juggle as he comes to terms with the process of becoming a fully human being living in a world of stereotypical expectations.

he humbly accepts his own limitations, and sees himself not so much as self made, but as part of a whole; his voice is 'not a monologue, but rather a chorus' of all those who contributed to shaping his spirit. he is free to utilize the talent resources he has been gifted with, cultivate them and express them and shares them freely.

peace to all,

ron

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#230300 - 06/11/08 09:50 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: bardo213]
JasonSmalls Offline
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I think the simple answer is a penis and testicles. lol

But seriously, I'm not really sure what a man is supposed to be. I've been told by people, usually assholes, that "I act too gay," and that I should be "more manly." I think this is so ridiculous. I have no intention to act at all or to be somebody I'm not. "I'd rather let my flame burn bright than be some puny little pilot light!" Emmit Honeycutt QAF


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#230301 - 06/11/08 09:53 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: JasonSmalls]
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Originally Posted By: JasonSmalls
I've been told by people, usually assholes, that "I act too gay," and that I should be "more manly." I think this is so ridiculous. I have no intention to act at all or to be somebody I'm not. "I'd rather let my flame burn bright than be some puny little pilot light!" Emmit Honeycutt QAF

You are so right. People who expect you to conform to their own vision of manhood are assholes indeed, and you know what, there is no pleasing them anyway. So why bother to try?

Just be yourself always. Flame on!

Much love,
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
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#230305 - 06/11/08 10:15 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: roadrunner]
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Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 543
Loc: Boulder, Colorado
Hey Jason. I'm just in the process of coming out. A well meaning therapist - the first person I said the words "I'm gay" to, said... "Well, the earring is suggestive, but you don't really have gay speech". I was insulted... I am not Gay Dan... I am Dan... a person, and I happen to be gay. I am also a friend, a father, an athlete, a reader, a movie watcher... I am me... and I am starting to realize that "me" is great!

You be yourself - People who worry about how YOU act have thier own issues and, as Larry says, will never be pleased - they want you to validate who THEY are - or who they want to be - to hell with them.

Jason=Just right!

Dan

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#230309 - 06/11/08 10:26 AM Re: What does it take be a man? [Re: dannym]
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Dan,

The next time you see your therapist and he/she asks how you are, say loudly that you are FANTABULOUS! Than there won't be any suspicion of your sexuality. lol

Joey


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