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#220135 - 04/24/08 11:06 AM NAMBLA ALERT
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WRKO radio in Boston has a radio talk show by Mary-Ellen Burns right now. During her 11:00-12:00 segment, she weill have a NAMBLA appologist attorney on her show.

I cant listen to it as I have an appointment, but anyone here ought to listen via streaming audio at http://www.wrko.com

You can call in too---HINT HINT No Matter where you are.

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#220136 - 04/24/08 11:13 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Still]
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Listening now...freaky stuff. :-\

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#220142 - 04/24/08 11:43 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: AndyJB2005]
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wish I would have seen this sooner, I would have listened in! Probably would have gotten really pissed off and called in to boot!


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#220145 - 04/24/08 12:03 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: JustScott]
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I missed the first 15 minutes, but didn't hear the apologist. *shrug* Still, freaky stuff. There's no way that they would legalize man-boy relations, I think -- luckily.

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#220152 - 04/24/08 12:15 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: AndyJB2005]
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Just the idea that NAMBLA can be heard and be taken seriously in any way kind of freaks me out ....

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#220155 - 04/24/08 12:19 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: roadrunner]
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They live in a sick fantasy world where this is not abuse but "love". A boy does need a real loving accepting safe father. Not having that he will take what he can get. What these sickos offer is so close to what a boy needs that the boy is seduced into the lie and my live out his life believing his corrupted and perverted view of love is normal. This can perpetuate a terrible cycle of abuse in the name of lonliness and acceptance.

I want to throw up.


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#220171 - 04/24/08 12:52 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Freedom49]
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Does any know if there was ANYONE speaking in defense of NAMBLA? If there was, I'm going to contact the producer to see if MS can have some time too.

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#220179 - 04/24/08 01:15 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Still]
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Some callers (the minority) called in an spoke to the freedom of speech, but not the freedom to touch. They were like they can say anything as long as the law wasn't broken by hurting kids. I guess they were taking the ACLU's side. The host said those people shouldn't have any free speech rights.

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#220182 - 04/24/08 01:29 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: AndyJB2005]
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I've emailed the Program Director asking for any opportunities to get MS people on the air during some talk shows. I hope some of you are ready to fly to Boston if he says yes.

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#220183 - 04/24/08 01:31 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Still]
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I would do it in a heart beat but Ken Singer would probably be best.


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#220256 - 04/24/08 09:12 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Freedom49]
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I'm just too lazy. \:D


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#220282 - 04/24/08 10:29 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Freedom49]
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NAMBLA HUH.........I had better be real careful what i want to say, and what i actually say about these sick bastards who can actually have the audacity to talk about such sick fuckin perversion and say "love" is what the molesting pigs and scum of the earth do to our precious children.

Male survivor REALLY NEEDS TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER contacting this station and demand if "they" have the chance to "speak out" on what their twisted fuckin manipulitive and coercison ways then MS as a whole needs to be recognized for the very survival and safe enviroment this nurturing site offers.

I am so fuckin seething right now and yet all "WE" can do as survivors is sit back and be re-victimized all over again.....how nice is that ....it makes my skin crawl NAMBLA...( what a sick sick perverted orginization they have NO RIGHTS they have no freedom of speech to hide behind.It's a bumch of bullshit.

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PS: i actually live about 20 minutes from boston.....if anyone is seriously thinking about going ...let me know.....i'll be that voice.

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#220283 - 04/24/08 10:31 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: thecoopstah]
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how are we being re-victimized?


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#220311 - 04/25/08 01:03 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Jarrad]
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Ok NAMBLA can't have free speech, then immigrants, then the unemployed, then minorities, then anyone who disagrees with the states position. Think I'm exagerating? Look up "The Alien and Sedition Act" or read about the Japenese internment, or Sacco Venzetti, etc etc etc. The list goes on. They have the right to say whatever they what, however they should be limited on when and where they can say it. I think thats an apppropriate balance. Not complete freedom, but not censorship either.

And for the record, I hate NAMBLA as well, don't think I'm defending them, just their rights as Americans, not matter how much it makes me cringe.

And if they do touch, just read my posts on punishment for perps.



Edited by USFbull (04/25/08 01:03 AM)
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#220327 - 04/25/08 03:17 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: USFbull]
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NAMBLA.. Oh, yeah the Neanderthal Assholes for Manipulating Boys with Lies and Abuse..I THINK that's how it went. Something like that.

I think it's important that all that bs gets it's five minutes of fame..free speech works both ways which is what's great about it.
As long as all sides get heard, then it's hard to see the wackos winning the debate.

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#231430 - 06/17/08 04:34 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: blueshift]
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whats NAMBLA? i tried to google it but parental controls blocked it.


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#231443 - 06/17/08 05:20 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: JasonSmalls]
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It is the North American Man/Boy Love Association. What they espouse is along the lines of the ancient Athenians. It is pretty much the radical opposite of the group viewpoint here.

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#231444 - 06/17/08 05:22 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Trucker51]
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holy shit! is that even legal? wtf?


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#231453 - 06/17/08 06:32 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: JasonSmalls]
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The ancient Athenians weren't so hot, either--they didn't even pretend that the relationship was for the enjoyment of the boy. He was an object, as women were. A man may have written a poem about him, but never implying that he had a point of view.

In grad school, I used to be part of the North Eastern Modern Language Association. People looked at me funny whenever I said I was going to a NEMLA conference...



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#231466 - 06/17/08 10:05 AM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: USFbull]
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How would you like to be the FBI agent that has go undercover to bust these perps? Poor guy.

A couple of decades ago the main-stream media exposed NAMBLA's existence and showed many of their live meetings (yes, they do/did in fact meet live). They use to exercise their "right" to assemble at public libraries. They would simply apply to public libraries (such as Boston Public) and would get a meeting room. The media showed many walk-in intrusions of their meetings with cameras running.

These fkrs would then cover their faces and practically crawl under the tables.

Originally Posted By: USFbull
Ok NAMBLA can't have free speech, then immigrants, then the unemployed, then minorities, then anyone who disagrees with the states position. Think I'm exaggerating? Look up "The Alien and Sedition Act" or read about the Japanese internment, or Sacco Vanzetti, etc etc etc. The list goes on. They have the right to say whatever they what, however they should be limited on when and where they can say it. I think thats an appropriate balance. Not complete freedom, but not censorship either.

And for the record, I hate NAMBLA as well, don't think I'm defending them, just their rights as Americans, not matter how much it makes me cringe.


In the USA, freedom of speech found/defined limitation through several recent cases; The most powerful and altering being statutory, regulatory and case precedent against anti-abortion activity. The anti-abortionist are severely limited in what, how and where they can communicate their message. What it all boils down to with their issue is that they make the people involved feel uncomfortable with their actions, careers and decisions.

First amendment rights are also limited by US Sup Ct decisions regarding child-porn (thank God!!!).

Recent anti-terrorism statutes and administrative regs provide for dramatic action against any individual who utter words that could be construed as threatening or indicate a conspiracy to do harm.

So there ARE in fact limits. NAMBLA could and should be limited similarly. We are in fact a nation of laws and rights. We also utilize "reasonable man" discernment regarding interpretation of these rights and laws.

The way I see it is that the NAMBLA org and its members could EASILY be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit (fill in a perp crime) . Just try and find a prosecutor with guts enough to do it.

They could also be constrained in their communications in ways identical to those used against the anti-abortionists.



(WOW...and I got through that without raging or criminal threatening....the meds must be working...Larry will be so proud)




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#231495 - 06/17/08 01:30 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Still]
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well, ok, maybe i watch too many Arnold Schwarzenneger films, but, without remorse, lol, i'm going to get told off for this one, if i found a NAMBLA organisation meeting, i would walk in with a machine gun and waste them all, LOL, ok, maybe not because i'd get caught, but i'd definitely blow something up, maybe their cars, maybe set fire to the building they are in or cause some kind of public disorder, grrrrrrrr, ok, so they deserve free speach? fine, i will just make the NAMBLATAO, the north american man boy love association tongue amputation organisation, watch out, you are being hunted!

it's not that i'm full of rage, i just wouldn't give it a second thought

(considering, considering, considering, should i hit submit...hell, go for it, lets just not make this thread a bloodbath because i will get told off)

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#231503 - 06/17/08 02:00 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: king tut]
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#231521 - 06/17/08 04:36 PM Re: NAMBLA ALERT [Re: Still]
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A little sugar in the gas tank or get a valve wrench and just crack their tire valves. Next morning either the car won't start or it will have four flat tires. I can tell you from experience the look on your adversary's face is quite satsfying when he realises that he isn't going anywhere soon.

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