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#218520 - 04/16/08 10:25 AM i wanted to shaked my TV
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so im eating breakfast. watching the today show. and three of the women from the polygamist group from texas were on. the interviwer was asking about abuse and if they they have seen abuse on the ranch. the woman responded. "no. we love our children. it is all choice. there is no force." i would much rather have her say "yeah we beat the shit out of the kids and force them to have sex." the kids wouldn't be as warped.


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#218530 - 04/16/08 11:41 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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I want to shake your T.V. too!

I find the brainwashing and rationalization of cults, religious or not, as so aggrivating.

I'm sorry you had such a lousy start to your day.

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#218605 - 04/16/08 06:25 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: dannym]
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Yep, all about choice. Have sex with the adults or be denied affection and attention, become unimportant and unlovable, find those closest to you shouting and blaming you and threatening you with damnation, and get shunned as outcasts.

I wonder which they "chose"?

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#218695 - 04/17/08 08:50 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: roadrunner]
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Pity of it is, there really is no choice in a system like that. It's been a way of life for so many decades most of them think it's normal. They know no different.

Choice? You only have a choice if you know there are other options. Without that knowledge there is no choice.

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#218697 - 04/17/08 09:04 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: WalkingSouth]
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I ask this in all sincerity: Has it been proven that they are sexually abusing the kids, or is it that people just hate these cults?

It concerns me greatly because I've studied what went on at Waco (including visiting the site) and the breach of criminal law and human rights by the US-DOJ and TX authorities was horrendous. I smell similar mob and overly-zealous law enforcement mentality going on here.


(...and I hope you all know me well enough by now to know I'm not defending any sort of SA...Its just that official injustice and media-driven frenzy freaks me out beyond belief. Official incompetance such as how the children of this cult are being treated by authorities right now is a abomination to humanity.)




Edited by Robbie Brown (04/17/08 09:15 AM)
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#218714 - 04/17/08 10:17 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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what they are calling sexual abuse is arranging marriages with 14 year old girls with older men.


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#218716 - 04/17/08 10:21 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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Yeah I had a similar experience this morning when I read extracts of an APA submission from the Netherlands suggesting pedophilia had few negative consequences for young boys.

I hope the proponents lose their funding.



Edited by hogan_dawg (04/17/08 10:21 AM)
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#218718 - 04/17/08 10:26 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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Originally Posted By: Jarrad
what they are calling sexual abuse is arranging marriages with 14 year old girls with older men.


K....that's flat-out sick and illegal! Thanks for the clarification

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#218721 - 04/17/08 10:34 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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Rob, I totally share your concern. However, in this case, they may have had a legitimate reason to investigate, given that it was a 15yo girl that called the police looking for help, while she was pregnant, and AFTER she had already had one baby.

However, unlike the Branch Davidians incident where the police were there to enforce Federal Gun laws (an oxymoron if you ever read the Constitution BTW) the police were there to enforce STATE law regarding the sexual abuse of minors, which is completely within a State's autonomy and proper role, in this case. But, once again, I question the veracity of the State of Texas in this case because "the girl" has never materialized, and her alleged assailant was briefly interviewed by Texas Rangers and permitted to leave without being charged.

What REALLY gives ME pause about this case is what the police are equipped with to confront citizens. I DON'T like the fact that the police COULD take away all of our rights IF they really wanted to. (hint, they could) How? They now employ military hardware to make sure that if they confront a citizen which actually stands his/her ground, that they don't get injured or killed themselves.

I find something VERY WRONG with this picture because it's equipment like this that made the Waco disaster possible.

But I mean, COME ON, what the HELL are they doing employing THIS kind of hardware for CSA law enforcement. Can you say "overkill"?




More can be read about this incident here:

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/your-children-are-ours.html





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#218730 - 04/17/08 11:43 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Hauser]
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Gotta love the tripod-mounted machinegun. You know those Mormons! You can never be too careful.


This reminds me of another child custody case:



"Your children are ours"

God save this country from our government...please



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#219071 - 04/19/08 11:07 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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Jarrad, I've taken a 180 view on this. At first, I thought that maybe the raid was justified, but let's consider some developing facts, and some past histories of the Texas Foster Care System, which is what all these kids are gonna be going into if the State of Texas has it's way.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5713823.html

Arrest in polygamy call stuns child advocates
Woman, 33, also being investigated in Eldorado case

AUSTIN — It sounded so genuine: a terrified voice of a young girl expressing fear that if rescued from a religious cult, blacks might harm her.

The calls to the Child Protection Project, run by a former member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, were recorded at the request of the Texas Rangers.

The Rangers wanted to know if the anonymous caller was the young girl whose outcry by phone on March 29, to a San Angelo crisis center triggered a massive raid two weeks ago on the breakaway Mormon sect's ranch outside Eldorado.

The search didn't produce the girl, but records seized at the polygamist site prompted state authorities to remove all 416 children from the ranch and seek termination of parental custody, now the subject of a legal drama in nearby San Angelo involving hundreds of lawyers.

The calls to the former sect member, meanwhile, led the Rangers to Colorado Springs, Colo., where police Wednesday arrested Rozita Swinton, a 33-year-old black woman.

She was charged with falsely reporting abuse to authorities in connection with a separate incident in Colorado Springs two months ago.

Texas authorities say Swinton is a person of interest in their search for the girl whose call prompted them to raid the Yearning for Zion Ranch.

Department of Public Safety officials declined to discuss the case as part of an ongoing investigation, but issued a statement Friday saying the Rangers accompanied Colorado Springs police to search Swinton's home for items related to previous false reports to authorities.

Officers found several items indicating a possible connection between Swinton and calls regarding FLDS compounds in Colorado City, Arizona, and the one near Eldorado.

The Rangers are "actively pursuing Rozita Swinton as a person of interest regarding telephone calls placed to a crisis center hotline in San Angelo," the DPS said.

A Colorado judge approved the Rangers' request to seal records in the case.

Child Protection Project founder Linda Walker and the Phoenix-based group's executive director, Flora Jessop, said Friday they were stunned when they learned the woman's identity.

"In her little baby voice, she said, 'If you rescue me, and I get out of here, do you think the black people will hurt me?' " Walker said. "She had done her homework. She knew it was a racist cult. We know that these kids are very frightened of black people.

"The Texas Rangers told us she was obsessed with the FLDS. They confiscated tons of material on the FLDS (in the search of Swinton's home). She even gave real addresses and real names of FLDS people."

Walker and Jessop hesitated to say that Swinton was the person who called the Texas hot line to describe sexual and physical abuse by a 50-year-old husband at the ranch outside Eldorado, but they endorsed the resulting actions of Texas authorities.

"Regardless of who made these calls, the system worked exactly as it was supposed to work," said Jessop, a former FLDS member whose cousin, Merrill Jessop, runs the ranch.

"A call came into the hot line from a little girl who said she was being brutalized. They turned this information over to Child Protective Services and to the proper authorities. Those authorities went in and did their job," she said. "They found systemic abuse in there, which is what we have been saying for years."
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Now let's have a look at this Wonderful Foster Care System that these "rescued" kids will be going into, shall we?

Boy's death points to flaws in foster care system
http://www.hope4kidz.org/news/texas/TX_11122006.html

Texas Foster Care Investigation - Children as young as 3 are drugged with antipsychotics
http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/04/11/13.php

Before he was caught for child rape...............
http://almosttuesday.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/before-he-was-caught-for-child-rape/

This whole affair TOTALLY disturbs me.

I mean, COME ON. They're taking away EVERY SINGLE child from their parents, you simply can't DO THAT. Let's say the Smiths living next door are abusing their kids, what makes it then ok to take away someone ELSE'S kids simply because they're living next door? This whole story stinks. God help those kids once their "saved" by the State of Texas and delivered to their wonderful Foster Care System.


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#219106 - 04/19/08 02:51 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Hauser]
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this isnt about poyligimists or false calls. the point is, in that moment on TV, that mother said "the child chooses." that is a flaw in itself. the child shouldn't choose anything. he or she should be guided to make the appropriate choices. i dont care if it was said by a white democratic woman living in california. the logic is flawed. thats what upset me.


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#219108 - 04/19/08 03:02 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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I agree with that, Jarrad. Just that there is that way of thought, it is dangerous. If that is what is 'taught', the believes that is taught, it is to me, wrong and dangerous. The rest of it is all crazy and no, of course not, children should not be taken away from all parents because one family is abusive. But I think it would be the rare 14 year old who is truly able to 'choose' to marry an old man and have his children. That is just wrong I think.

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#219119 - 04/19/08 04:03 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: ak]
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I have to go with Jarrad on this one. Hauser has a great point but when the prevailing thought in the "sect" is that a child. and may in emphasize the word CHILD, chooses that is just wrong on way to many levels and those people have no business with children because that is what it is to them business! These people should be sterilized and put out to pasture.



Edited by Freedom49 (04/19/08 04:03 PM)

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#219172 - 04/19/08 08:33 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Freedom49]
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These people should be sterilized and put out to pasture.


Well...this would have to apply to ALL child abusers, not just religious zellots.

Separate from public opinions surrounding their sick traditions and beliefs regarding children, try keeping an eye on the propoganda efforts, cover-ups and media manipulation. For example, main-stream media will NEVER even go near the established fact that the TX foster system in fkd-up beyond befief...that a huge proportion of these kids will be abused in the "system."

The abuse of probable and the heavy-handed official actions ought to scare the shnik out of any freedom loving American.

Propoganda, officail mis-information and media manipulation gave the US Govt popular license to kill the CHIDREN at Waco. And NO ONE in the US public said a peep on mainstram media.

Well, this time they may not outright kill the children of hated religious zellots, but they will certainly fk them up in the system.

I AM NOT DEFENDING THE TREATMENT AND ABUSE THESE KIDS WERE GETTING IN THIS SECT. I am pointing out that methods and power employed in this instance ought to truly concern Americans.

I dare anyone to tell me that abuse on a grand scale does not exist with any state's Child Services!

Example: In the early days of Christian home schooling in Massachusetts, children were routinely taken by the state (from loving parents) and put into one of the most dangerous "systems" in this counrty.

Originally Posted By: Freedom49
These people should be sterilized and put out to pasture.


As long as official propoganda and media manipulation yields results like your statement Roger, this nation will be doomed and corrupt and ill-intended leaders will relax comfortably.

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#219175 - 04/19/08 09:00 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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Ok fine..........there is no such thing as gravity.....the whole world sucks.

When I refer to "these people" I refer to anyone who abuses a child whether it is offcially sanctioned by the government, religious organizations, or parental units.

I should have known I would never get away with a stupid statement like that around Hauser or Robbie \:\(



Edited by Freedom49 (04/19/08 09:03 PM)

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#219299 - 04/20/08 12:38 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Jarrad]
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At least they are admitting to it, rather than denial.
Cults are generally the hub of abusers, with their own
morality clashing with that of the state.

They have no real choice, as other posters have already stated.
Then again, there is no choice when you are young, or at least
the choice is severely limited to expectation of what they tell
them love really is.

Its just a breeding ground for criminals, and future abusers.
Just tell the kids, its what God would like of them, ugh,

ste

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#219329 - 04/20/08 05:02 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: reality2k4]
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Cults suck!

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#219350 - 04/20/08 06:17 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Freedom49]
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Originally Posted By: Freedom49

I should have known I would never get away with a stupid statement like that around Hauser or Robbie \:\(


Didn't mean to pounce on you so freaking hard.

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#219358 - 04/20/08 06:34 PM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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Naw Robbie, I appreciate your POV. Sometimes I get emotional and say stupid stuff I regret later. You two always have different perspective that seems to balance that and it is a good thing. lol Thanks


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#219876 - 04/23/08 06:02 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Freedom49]
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Thanks Robbie for trying to keep the thread in perspective.
I note that there is NO legislation to tackle female abusers, mainly because we live in a land where they do not exist.

Putting a band aid on such a deep wound, is not going to make the sore any better, but it keeps the sheep happy in thinking that the law is ahead in child abuse detection, and subsequent punishment.

I can just imagine what the people would think, if one in eight in society were castrated!
But 99.9% are never brought to justice, and the sheep don't even realize it.

Dr Mengelar must be turning in his grave, knowing the opportunities he missed, by being born in the wrong era,

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#224315 - 05/15/08 02:13 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: reality2k4]
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Here is an update on how the State of Texas is treating those "rescued" children.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9238520?source=email
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Caregivers blast Texas' treatment of polygamous sect's women, children
By Julia Lyon
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 05/13/2008 09:17:24 AM MDT

Children living in crowded quarters that led to upper respiratory illnesses. Youngsters plagued with diarrhea from unhealthy foods they usually did not eat. Distressed mothers enduring widespread rudeness - such as flashlights shined in their faces as they tried to sleep.

Mental health professionals who helped care for FLDS women and children in the weeks after an April raid on the YFZ Ranch describe conditions and treatment they perceived as harsh and unnecessary.

"Never in all my life, and I am one of the older ladies, have I been so ashamed of being a Texan and seeing what and how our government agencies treat people," wrote one employee of Hill Country Community Mental Health and Mental Retardation Center in an unsigned statement.

Texas contracts with Hill Country to provide mental health services during disasters. Staff members met with the center's board of trustees last week, leaving them "spellbound." The board has gathered nine written statements critical of Child Protective Services.

Chairman John Kight said he wants state legislators and the governor to hear the employees' stories. "You have damaged these children for their lives," he said. "This is an agency that looks like it's gone out of control." A Texas CPS spokesman acknowledged the allegations were "very serious" and said they are being investigated. But he noted the women and children were held at a historic fort and a convention center in San Angelo in an unusual emergency situation.

"It was as comfortable as possible under the circumstances," said Patrick Crimmins. "But you have to remember it was a shelter, it was temporary arrangement until we could arrange for foster care for the children."

The raid was triggered by a claim of abuse at the ranch, home to members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a polygamous sect traditionally based on the Utah-Arizona border. A baby born today brought the total of children in state custody to 465.

Not all Texas CPS employees were criticized by the Hill Country employees. One young man was described as sitting for two hours comforting a toddler separated from his mother. The Texas Rangers were "respectful and polite," according to another statement.

But the statements focus on the Hill Country staffers' dismay at uncaring behavior they say they witnessed by CPS employees.

A boy estimated at age 3 walked along a row of cots asking for someone to rock him after he was separated from his mother, one employee wrote. Two CPS worker trailed the youngster taking notes but not helping him. His brother, age 8, eventually took the child into his arms and sat with him in a rocking chair.

"That little boy will always be in my mind," the employee wrote. "How can a beautiful, healthy child be taken from a healthy, loving home and forced into a situation like that, right here in America, right here in Texas?"

Mothers who initially were allowed to stay with their children were later required to leave if their child was older than 12 months. Describing that day, one employee wrote, "the floor was literally slick with tears in places."

After the separation, a baby was allegedly left in a stroller with no food and water for 24 hours and ended up in a hospital, according to another statement.

"We don't believe that's the case, but we're checking into that," Crimmins said.

Several of the employees stated they do not condone polygamy or the alleged abusive treatment of children. But, they added, the FLDS mothers were not silent or hostile, as CPS had warned they would be. Instead, they were polite, focused on caring for the children, and willing to establish relationships, the mental health workers said.

Several writers claimed CPS workers repeatedly lied to the mothers regarding where they were going to be moved to and other issues.

Crimmins said he disputed that. The state has asserted the FLDS mothers were uncooperative with authorities, such as providing inaccurate or changing information about names and ages.



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#224339 - 05/15/08 09:02 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Hauser]
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What?



Did Oprah cover this one yet?








Edited by Robbie Brown (05/16/08 08:21 AM)
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#224531 - 05/16/08 08:14 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Hauser]
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Quote:
Children living in crowded quarters that led to upper respiratory illnesses. Youngsters plagued with diarrhea from unhealthy foods they usually did not eat.

Mental health professionals who helped care for FLDS women and children in the weeks after an April raid on the YFZ Ranch describe conditions and treatment they perceived as harsh and unnecessary.


A boy estimated at age 3 walked along a row of cots asking for someone to rock him after he was separated from his mother, one employee wrote. Two CPS worker trailed the youngster taking notes but not helping him. His brother, age 8, eventually took the child into his arms and sat with him in a rocking chair.


"That little boy will always be in my mind," the employee wrote. "How can a beautiful, healthy child be taken from a healthy, loving home and forced into a situation like that, right here in America, right here in Texas?"
...

After the separation, a baby was allegedly left in a stroller with no food and water for 24 hours and ended up in a hospital, according to another statement.



***cricket sound*** ***cricket sound*** ***cricket sound***


And this is a web site is greatly focused on childhood trauma?
I guess I can say that my "argument is proven." I just hope reading about these kids did not take too much of your day.

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#224546 - 05/16/08 09:23 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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You know, I can understand why kids want to return to the abuse sometimes. Because the help is often as bad or worse than the abuse. Seems whenever the government gets involved in anything it gets far worse. What ever happened to the idea that they were going to HELP the kids?


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#224807 - 05/18/08 07:09 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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I'm glad that I'm not allowed to watch T.V very often. I remember watching it and hearing about other kids getting hurt and it would completely wreck me for the whole day. 'Cause I would feel their pain, and take it with me.


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#225039 - 05/19/08 11:02 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Still]
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Originally Posted By: Robbie Brown
Originally Posted By: Jarrad
what they are calling sexual abuse is arranging marriages with 14 year old girls with older men.


K....that's flat-out sick and illegal! Thanks for the clarification

Beyond this, it's my understanding that the authorities are DNA testing everyone from that community, because it's not at all clear who is the offspring of who. So yes, it seems to me that there was something very wrong going on in this place.

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#225040 - 05/19/08 11:06 AM Re: i wanted to shaked my TV [Re: Hauser]
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Originally Posted By: Hauser
Here is an update on how the State of Texas is treating those "rescued" children.


Concerning the story that follows, I would suggest it's a good idea to look at all sides in this with a grain of salt until it's clear exactly what happened and what was done about it.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that Texas CPS was overwhelmed - how many kids did they have to deal with all in a day or two?

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