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#214664 - 04/01/08 03:07 PM Please
VN Offline
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Registered: 06/03/05
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(Something I try to write in response to some people who make not supporting comments to me recent. I am not a poet, not in English or mine own language, but I try to speak what I can here)

Please do not judge me, because I am man
I am only like you, doing best I can.

Please do not judge me, or think I am weak
It is just like you, support what I seek.

Please do not judge me, or tell me how to heal
I control what I can, but I not how I feel.

Please do not hurry me, or say I 'must be the man'.
Emotions are for women, is what I understand.

Please do not judge me, if you have not walked in my shoes
When you do not know what else in my life, I lose

Please do not judge me, or think we are the same
All we share are the feelings of loss, hurt and blame.

But please do not judge me, or compare me to you
When you think that I am not healing as you think I should do.

Please just listen, and treat me as friend
As I will offer myself to you until the end.

Please understand, that I am lost like a child
But trying to heal, it is just taking the while.

And please understand, that I may never forgive
But I am continuing to try to heal, and to live.

VN


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#214693 - 04/01/08 07:45 PM Re: Please [Re: VN]
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Loc: georgia
A heartfelt request I think most in this site would adhere to.

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#214697 - 04/01/08 07:59 PM Re: Please [Re: dancr6]
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Vitaliy,

Thank you for the reminder. It's very hard for those that care to not jump in and try to take over, all in the name of helping. The desire is sincere, but the effect is the exact opposite of what we want to accomplish.

ROCK ON.........Trish

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#214698 - 04/01/08 08:10 PM Re: Please [Re: Trish4850]
Freedom49 Offline
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Loc: Washington State
VN for not being a poet and not being your native language you do very well expressing yourself. I think your request is very good and I will do my best to honor it and you.


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#214736 - 04/01/08 11:00 PM Re: Please [Re: Freedom49]
Bobby Offline
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VN, If I have learned nothing else here, it is that there is a beauty in all of us, each of us unique in our song. Abuse has put a spell on us allowing us to appreciate even more the beauty that we see in others, while taking away our ability to see the beauty that is within. That's why it's so important that we keep telling each other exactly what we see. Part of healing is that the spell will be broken and once more we will realize that, when God created each one of us, He created a being of great beauty with an amazing capacity for love. Not judge you? I'm afraid I already have. You're kind and loving and caring and beautiful just the way God made you.

Bobby

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#214765 - 04/02/08 02:19 AM Re: Please [Re: Bobby]
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Actual, to be clear, it is not wrote about anyone or anything of this site. I should have say that before. Thank you, to read and respond, it is not something I can imagine to do so often, to try to do 'poems'.

VN


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#214998 - 04/03/08 09:40 AM Re: Please [Re: VN]
FLRich Offline
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Visha,

Please forgive me for not being the friend I should have been, to take time to listen to you and not tell you how to heal. We have discussed this and we are cool now, but this poem really breaks my heart, Sport.

You are a very good poet, and didn't even know it. Gee, maybe I have the talent, too!


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#215009 - 04/03/08 10:18 AM Re: Please [Re: FLRich]
LandOfShadow Offline
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Registered: 12/11/07
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Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
Sometimes I think just listening to each other here, is the great gift of healing we can offer, although I do try to say what I have learned myself along the way.

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#215015 - 04/03/08 10:41 AM Re: Please [Re: LandOfShadow]
JustScott Offline
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I think the poem is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.


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#215048 - 04/03/08 12:12 PM Re: Please [Re: JustScott]
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Thank you all for such nice responses and support. And Rich, truly, this is not about our recent discussion, but of certain responses I received recently in the other support group I belong to, which you know of. You are a great friend, and I know you are not judging person.

VN


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#216132 - 04/07/08 12:09 PM Re: Please [Re: VN]
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Registered: 12/19/03
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This is incredibly well written for a non - native speaker.
You're a very talented writer VN.

The poem reminds me of another - I have it somewhere
it's called: "The Art of Listening."
It may also be online.

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#216286 - 04/07/08 07:34 PM Re: Please [Re: VN]
roadrunner Offline
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Very cool poem Visha, and so honest and right to the point. And your English is fine bro! I'm trying to imagine one of us writing anything like this in Russian!

Much love,
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
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#456984 - 12/18/13 04:06 AM Re: Please [Re: VN]
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Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 3134
Loc: O Kanada
i love this.
beautiful.
i do judge you... worthy of love and respect.
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#456992 - 12/18/13 09:33 AM Re: Please [Re: VN]
Shyshark Offline


Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 412
Loc: Canada
As I read your poem ... which is very beautiful ... I was confused about to whom it was written ...
hoping that it was not about having been mistreated or betrayed by someone/someones here.
I'm glad you cleared that up.

Sadly ... it's often the person who wants to help the most that does the most damage.
Certainly they don't mean to ... but for many reasons ... they do.
More sadly ... this exists here in MS as well. You have to be careful here and to know
somebody a little before you start depending on them.
Almost everybody here wants to share for the benefit of the both of you ...
sometimes ... it's not a good fit.
Everywhere ... beware of someone who wants to 'save' you.
Only you can do that ... someone else can only help.

Your poem was extremely well written ... and very touching.
Don't ever worry about grammar and verb tenses and even just words.
Trust me ... we'll understand ... and if we are confused ... we'll ask for clarification.
smile

This is not about how well you write the words ...
it's about how well you express your feelings.
When speaking heart to heart ... no language is necessary.

Keep writing.
Poetry is a safe and supportive place.

Shawn
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