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#211790 - 03/19/08 11:02 PM epiphanies
MarkK Offline
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i have decided
- there is nothing shameful in being at "rock bottom"
- it is perfectly acceptable to feel completely isolated and alone
- i should not feel guilty for feeling like trash
- i am not "broken" just because i'm going thru major depression right now


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#211793 - 03/19/08 11:24 PM Re: epiphanies [Re: MarkK]
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Mark,

And of course.... from there, you can only go up!

Many of us are here to lend a helping hand, just reach out!!!!

Luv ya,
Carl

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#211794 - 03/19/08 11:25 PM Re: epiphanies [Re: MarkK]
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Mark,

Good for you! We all have bad patches, and if we let them get us down further then the bad patch may just continue. We do need to remember that recovery is hard work and that sometimes progress hurts.

Much love,
Larry

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As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
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#211808 - 03/20/08 12:11 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: roadrunner]
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I have a sign I put up when I started. It says "Be nice, it will be hard".

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#211832 - 03/20/08 06:24 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: mogigo]
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Yeah, MarkK--the only thing worse than feeling bad and beating yourself up is feeling bad about feeling bad, and beating yourself up for beating yourself up. Accepting that we have those feelings and must have them sometimes isn't the same thing as saying that they're the reality and it is hopeless. It's just accepting the process, like any other kind of healing.

Mike--I love that sign! That says it all.

David


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#211839 - 03/20/08 08:30 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: MemoryVault]
MarkK Offline
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Originally Posted By: MemoryVault
the only thing worse than feeling bad and beating yourself up is feeling bad about feeling bad, and beating yourself up for beating yourself up.

actually - the worst is when your "support team" or "friends" or whatever, beat you up for feeling bad instead of just accepting that you feel bad.

m


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#211840 - 03/20/08 08:36 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: MarkK]
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I has a support group that did that and I left them. They don't contact me and I don't them. They were doing more harm than good.
I can't be in a group that used guilt, shame, and fear for support.
Glad to hear you are on the upswing good for you! I'm happy for you
Mark.

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#211841 - 03/20/08 08:36 AM Re: epiphanies *DELETED* [Re: MemoryVault]
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#211862 - 03/20/08 10:55 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: awakening]
KENKEN Offline
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Mark,

I thought I was ready for a melt down yesterday. Seems nothing was going right for me, social, family or work. My feelings and emotions were so different and I couldn't find the coping skills to help me. I was down and ready to crack.

Then I decided to get on my motorcycle and take a ride. It was the best thing I could have done. I came back from a long ride and made the decision to accept the way I feel. Your post is also making me feel much better. Yea, I am down, so what? I will deal with it and who knows, maybe tomorrow I will feel better.

Thanks for the "words"

Ken

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#211864 - 03/20/08 11:13 AM Re: epiphanies [Re: KENKEN]
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Seems like this is a common feeling to some of us lately. I certainly felt like I sank to the bottom over the last few weeks.

Mark, what you say is a pretty big deal. Being okay with not feeling good at all has never been easy for me. I can quickly forget how I got there and start the downward spiral of negative feedback.

Good for you!

Craig

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