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#210737 - 03/14/08 08:09 PM Interesting Discovery
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As some of you know I have just returned from a psych hospital stay of 8 days for issues related to my CSA and stress.

This was my second 8-day psych stay in 8 months...nothing to be proud of, but let me tell you this; it was a positive experience and it kept me alive.

This recent trip was rather diffcult for me. There were some scary factors and people involved. But during the stay I learned a very interesting bit of info from my fellow patients/inmates.

We were all there for suicidal issues and/or some sort of substance abuse problem that reached life-threatening levels. Wanna guess what percentage of them were CSA victims?????

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#210774 - 03/14/08 09:39 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: Still]
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Hey Rob,
So good to see you back, I'm glad to see your doing what you need to do to survive. You say that its not anything to be proud of (2 visits in 8 months) but I think it is. Your doing what you need to do for you to get your life on the right track. It would be easy for you to go back to your old ways but instead you faced it by getting help.

As far as the percentage of CSA, well I know it can't be 100%, but I'd say 80%.




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#210781 - 03/14/08 10:15 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: onlyakid]
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I'll say 55%, I spent something like 3 months in a psych ward Robbie. I can tell ya it was really weird. I had to take my time and become acclimated to the outside world. Take your time and be good to yourself. OK?

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#210785 - 03/14/08 10:42 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: GateKPR4]
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Alot of us have ben there . I have ben 3 times in a phyc ward . It is no fun . As far as a persent fo sexual trama victoms . My guess is around 25 %

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#210799 - 03/15/08 01:42 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: OKIE MIKE]
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I'll guess 35%-40%
I spent some time in a hospital also. I almost took my life and I thought I belonged there. That place woke me up real quick. I almost forgot I was there until I saw your post. Glad this visit was positive. It took me a long time to get over my stay. Flashbacks right now......wow.

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#210800 - 03/15/08 01:44 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: G5]
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#210829 - 03/15/08 10:26 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: EGL]
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DING DING DING!!! Eddie has it.

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#210835 - 03/15/08 10:44 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: Still]
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That was my guess as well. I'm sure that is not always the case in psych wards, but I'll bet overall the percentages are very high.

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#210862 - 03/15/08 01:19 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: WalkingSouth]
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WOW! I knew there was a lot of it happening but this is an eye opener. Wonder what the statistics are or if they even keep any on csa and mental/addiction problems? I know that when I was in AA I met quite a few survivors. In my own experience from all the women I dated almost all had some kind of csa history. I don't want to take away from the male side of the issue, just an observation from my own history.

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#211012 - 03/16/08 09:25 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: GateKPR4]
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Having been in two Psych hospitals, I can tell you that they do NOT want to delve into root causes of behavioral problems. In my first hospital, I disclosed to the group. About 80% of the others there confirmed that they too were CSAed. Most have never dealt with the issue before. Having raised the issue, I put some of them into a serious funk. During one session, a newbie to the group (whom was in for severe depression) heard me talking about my abuse. He promptly stood-up, took about five steps across the room and fainted flat on his face (breaking it).

I can tell you that of ALL the Psychiatrists I have worked with in-patient, have had an auto-reaction to turn away from the CSA, and deal with the symptoms it causes me. I was told by one Doc that "you've suffered enough having gone through that...you need to just let it go and move on with life." I was SO frustrated that I began to cry after he said that.

Anyway...this all just sucks...don't it?




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#211014 - 03/16/08 09:47 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: Still]
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Robbie,
My last stay was a week in in a psych hospital in Raleigh. I was placed on the alcohol/drug rehab side because I took an overdose of Xanax and since I had been in the out patient for alcohol after a stay in in Wilmington treatment center they treated it as just drug abuse. That being said, the had two sides of the hospital, one for mental issues and one for alcohol/drug abuse. I should have been placed on the other side because it was depression that caused me to take an overdose.

Well as part of my "program" there they had a class on sexual abuse. There were 7 men and two woman. The therapist was a woman and stereotyped males as being the perps and women being the victims. I was the only one out of all the men that said I had been sexually abused. After the session I informed her that she needed to look into sexual abuse of males and that there were probably more of us in that room who were scared to speak out because of her stereotyping. It really pissed me off that she had no clue about males being molested, raped, and abused. How can a system have a class on sexual abuse when its biased? This was the last I heard of it but she did say she would look into it more and thanked me for brining it to her attention.

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#211016 - 03/16/08 09:55 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: GateKPR4]
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ARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#211025 - 03/16/08 10:36 AM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: Still]
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Excellent work Robbie in reviewing the sad fact that we are truly alone on our own.

When even professional who should be helping us can't understand, what can I say, THIS HAS TO CHANGE.

Rob glad you are back.

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#211044 - 03/16/08 12:04 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: Still]
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This is, like, the third in a couple days where I have to say, "Yes! Yes!" after your post... \:\)

Originally Posted By: Robbie Brown
I was told by one Doc that "you've suffered enough having gone through that...you need to just let it go and move on with life." I was SO frustrated that I began to cry after he said that.

Anyway...this all just sucks...don't it?


It would be ok I guess if that really worked, but it's like not bothering to change the oil in your car. It's SO expensive in the long run..

I've tried so hard to forget the past, but I've lost me. I don't feel real or here or like anything at all matters to me.

I'm giving up on professionals and society about this issue... This all just sucks, yes. It has to change, but for now, we are on our collective own.

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#211047 - 03/16/08 12:30 PM Re: Interesting Discovery [Re: LandOfShadow]
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Originally Posted By: LandOfShadow


I'm giving up on professionals and society about this issue... This all just sucks, yes. It has to change, but for now, we are on our collective own.



WE JUST HAVE TO SHOW THEM THE WAYS TO HELP US.

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