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#2083 - 07/30/06 02:43 PM ITSBACK
Itsback Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 112
Loc: New Mexico
Well after some very interesting PM's and a little soul searching I have decided NOT to leave unconditionally.

Sorry to those who thought the dark side won.

WRONG YOU LOSE.

There is too much SUNLIGHT out there to be enjoyed and that message must be spread and I guess I have been spreading it against the will of others


So LET THERE BE LIGHT it feels SO DAMN GOOD.


Well I am off to church and a movie with the better half and I FEEL GOOD.


Have a GREAT DAY


Fight the good fight


ps those who cast doubt read my footnote- Its is how I think

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I truely believe the pain made me stronger now I want to let the healing make me softer- Never Stop-Never-Quit-Always Care

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#2084 - 07/30/06 04:26 PM Re: ITSBACK
Nobbynobs Offline
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Registered: 06/26/05
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Loc: Toronto
Amen bro, hope you are able to sleep through church and enjoy the movie, & not the other way around. \:D

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When you go up to the bell, ring it! Or don't go up to the bell.

- Mel Brooks

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#2085 - 07/30/06 06:57 PM Re: ITSBACK
WalkingSouth Offline
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ItsBack,

I firmly and wholeheartedly agree with Nobby! However, if you must, enjoy church as well. I most likely would.

Lots of love,

John

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“Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy ____…! What a ride!’” ~Hunter S. Thompson

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#2086 - 07/30/06 08:58 PM Re: ITSBACK
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I'm not dissing church. I can think of no better place to catch a few winks on a Sunday morning, and if I do wake up and feel guilty about sleeping in church, then hey, I'm in church! I can just go confess. ;\)

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When you go up to the bell, ring it! Or don't go up to the bell.

- Mel Brooks

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#2087 - 07/30/06 10:36 PM Re: ITSBACK
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Registered: 05/02/05
Posts: 22045
Loc: Carlisle, PA
Pete,

It's good to see you have reconsidered, not least of all because you clearly have things you want to/need to discuss here.

I will just say that the sort of bright and positive outlook that you represent here is as welcome as any other. Why not? Surely we all aim for the kind of perspective that seems to play such a vital and real role in your own life.

The problem is that we are all individuals and are all on different places on the path to healing. If others don't seem to share your perspective yet that doesn't mean they are against it; they are just not to that point in their journey.

We are all unique in so many ways, and that is what makes us a community. Your take on things is as vital and important as any other. By reacting to each other we can all learn and grow.

Much love,
Larry

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Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
(Woody Guthrie)

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#2088 - 07/31/06 05:58 AM Re: ITSBACK
Itsback Offline
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Loc: New Mexico
Larry,

In some aspects of your post your very correct, some are not there but are trying.

But sorry to say there are some who have not left the dark hell I was once in and continue to try and drag others down into the place they still are as they cant seem to grasp how others are succeeding and they are not.

No its not everyone and correct we are INDIVIDUALS (the spice of life) and I would hope to God that not everyone agrees with me hell that would make life boring and then why the hell did I come to admittance? to be totally correct all the time? Hell I had that when I was hidding behind my wall.

Hell no! I came for HEALTHY debates, wholesome learning and the ability to grow as a man, a human being and a person.


Fight the good fight

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#2089 - 07/31/06 04:35 PM Re: ITSBACK
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Registered: 02/09/05
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Loc: New Mexico, USA
I'm glad you stayed. I can hardly wait for the day when I can finally learn to leave the dark hell and live in the happy light as you have. I've always wondered why I can't seem to succeed, and there it is. So easy, simple, and fun.

Let's dance, shall we?

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ForeverFighting

"This search for the truth--it's not for the faint of heart."--Goren on 'Law & Order: CI'
"The former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart."--Isaiah 65:17

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#2090 - 07/31/06 04:48 PM Re: ITSBACK
Itsback Offline
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I pray for each and everyone who is on this board to be able to truely smile again and to be able to really live life,, ForeverFighting, I could not imaging it any other way.

Fight the good fight.

And ya why not "Go Dancing it does make one feel good and besides its good fot the heart"

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I truely believe the pain made me stronger now I want to let the healing make me softer- Never Stop-Never-Quit-Always Care

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#2091 - 07/31/06 05:36 PM Re: ITSBACK
reality2k4 Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 6838
Loc: Stuck between water, air, and ...
I dont give with this "Oh, look at me business, and I will issue a warning here.
Many moons ago, I put this to the back of my mind, even though I still thought daily about it.

One day, it jumped out and hit me like a baseball bat.
There are many different guys on these boards, and I would never judge any of them.

Don't walk on the grass, hmmm, you can search for that in archive if you wish,

ste

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#2092 - 07/31/06 06:19 PM Re: ITSBACK
roadrunner Offline
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Pete,

Quote:
But sorry to say there are some who have not left the dark hell I was once in and continue to try and drag others down into the place they still are as they cant seem to grasp how others are succeeding and they are not.
I guess I have to say that I have never seen any guy here trying to drag anyone else down into the dark place he is in.

There are many cases where a guy talks about the dire difficulties he is in, and I am personally very glad when I see someone lay it on the line and talk about how bad things feel. In order to move forward a survivor needs to know that here he can be entirely honest with himself, and about himself.

It's by honest dialogue that we can help each other here on the Male Survivor site, and in order for that to occur there has to be an element of mutual trust and support. My own view is that guys who are in a bad place need ultimately to learn that this is all a matter of feelings and not reality. That is, they may feel worthless, tainted and unloveable, and those are real problems that need to be addressed. But in time they will see that these feelings are inaccurate; they are just part of the junk we carry into adulthood from when we were abused boys.

In this process of self-discovery they need at the same time to feel that regardless of their problems they are valued members of the MS community and won't be judged for whatever it is they need to say. It's a matter of gradually rebuilding confidence and self-esteem, which are so often more or less wrecked in a survivor anyway.

Guys who are further along can help out a lot by encouraging those in difficulty and taking every opportunity to validate and empower them - in short, by helping them along step by step and recalling how vital that support was when we ourselves were in that situation.

Again, just expressing my personal view, I am very proud of all my brothers who admit they need support, talk about their difficulties and dare to ask for help. I don't see that as any effort to drag others down; rather, to me it's a real act of courage and resolve.

Much love,
Larry

_________________________
Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
(Woody Guthrie)

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#2093 - 07/31/06 06:32 PM Re: ITSBACK
Jaysen Offline
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Registered: 06/14/06
Posts: 680
Pete, glad you stayed. All you need now is that custom Harley and life will be perfect...

J


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#2094 - 07/31/06 07:13 PM Re: ITSBACK
Itsback Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 112
Loc: New Mexico
Hey STE,

I dont mind stepping in poop when I walk on the grass, cept when I am wearing shoes, Harder to wash off that way

Have a blessed day all

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I truely believe the pain made me stronger now I want to let the healing make me softer- Never Stop-Never-Quit-Always Care

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#2095 - 07/31/06 08:09 PM Re: ITSBACK
reality2k4 Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 6838
Loc: Stuck between water, air, and ...
Beware of other things that can be laying in the grass!

ste

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Whoever stole the Sun, put it back and we'll drop all the charges!

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#2096 - 07/31/06 08:22 PM Re: ITSBACK
Nobbynobs Offline
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Registered: 06/26/05
Posts: 1286
Loc: Toronto
like rakes. Ow.

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When you go up to the bell, ring it! Or don't go up to the bell.

- Mel Brooks

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