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#207418 - 02/25/08 09:12 PM T shirt idea
LandOfShadow Offline
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Registered: 12/11/07
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Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
A picture of a cute smiling little boy with the caption:

"Tell him about sexual abuse,
Or let him experience it himself"

"I wish my parents would have taught me about sexual abuse,
so my abuser wouldn't have."

_________________________
Et par le pouvoir d’un mot Je recommence ma vie, Je suis né pour te connaître, Pour te nommer
Liberté

And by the power of a single word I can begin my life again, I was born to know you, to name you
Freedom

Paul Eluard

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#207455 - 02/26/08 12:48 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
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Good ideas -- heavy...:)

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Life's disappointments are harder to take when you don't know any swear words. -- Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)

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#207457 - 02/26/08 12:53 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: AndyJB2005]
Freedom49 Offline
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WOW, talk about in your face! That is good.


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#207520 - 02/26/08 10:23 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Freedom49]
LandOfShadow Offline
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Thanks, I'm feeling very "in your face" about it lately.

_________________________
Et par le pouvoir d’un mot Je recommence ma vie, Je suis né pour te connaître, Pour te nommer
Liberté

And by the power of a single word I can begin my life again, I was born to know you, to name you
Freedom

Paul Eluard

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#207717 - 02/27/08 08:53 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
roadrunner Offline
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LoS,

The idea is a good one, but I wonder how many people would wear such a T-shirt. It was interesting at the NY conference to see how participants reacted to the carry-bags they were given, with the "MaleSurvivor" logo on them. Some were okay about them, others were careful, outside the john Jay School, to carry them so the logo did not show. That old feeling of guilt and shame can stick with us!

Much love,
Larry

_________________________
Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
(Woody Guthrie)

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#207777 - 02/27/08 02:35 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: roadrunner]
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I actually wondered if malesurvivor.org had shirts etc, but then of course that was quickly followed with the fear of actually putting it on.

That fear and shame is very difficult to overcome.


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#216255 - 04/07/08 05:19 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: JustScott]
LandOfShadow Offline
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I found an ally and another T-shirt idea:

"I was raped"

http://www.scarleteen.com/article/politics/i_was_raped_wear_your_voice_out

_________________________
Et par le pouvoir d’un mot Je recommence ma vie, Je suis né pour te connaître, Pour te nommer
Liberté

And by the power of a single word I can begin my life again, I was born to know you, to name you
Freedom

Paul Eluard

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#216607 - 04/08/08 06:28 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
JustScott Offline
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Anyone know if you had your own MaleSurvivor.Org shirt made up if anyone here would have a problem with it?

I think I'm getting to the point where I'd actually wear it!


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#216737 - 04/09/08 03:08 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: JustScott]
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I would so wear one, any where to get one?

_________________________
Neither fear nor courage saves us.
Unnatural vices Are fathered by our heroism.
Virtues Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.
These tears are shaken from
the wrath-bearing tree.
~T.S. Eliot~

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#216738 - 04/09/08 03:14 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: USFbull]
Freedom49 Offline
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I would wear one to work.
and any where else I could.


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#216739 - 04/09/08 03:22 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Freedom49]
USFbull Offline
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I really want one now....

_________________________
Neither fear nor courage saves us.
Unnatural vices Are fathered by our heroism.
Virtues Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.
These tears are shaken from
the wrath-bearing tree.
~T.S. Eliot~

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#216740 - 04/09/08 03:32 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Freedom49]
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I would wear the logo shirt, if someone asks I could tell them what I want to disclose or not disclose. Not everyone is receptive to the message. Plus if it had anything else on it I would not be able to wear it to work. Since I spend 40 hrs a week there I would like to be able to wear it while working. I do have a support network at work. A 20oz travel mug would be nice, and Mouse pads, bumper stickers. I believe these would all generate a fair revenue stream to help with WOR funding.

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I'm a normal person dealing with abnormal experiences.
The greatest discoveries we will find within ourselves.
Ricky
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#216793 - 04/09/08 11:11 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: GateKPR4]
JustScott Offline
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Ok, so how do we move on this? What do we gotta do to get it going?????

Who do we talk to! I want to see this ball rolling and would love it if it was actually a big old snowball that got bigger and bigger and bigger!


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#216800 - 04/09/08 12:25 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: JustScott]
Freedom49 Offline
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Guess we need to talk to the BoD about this one. I like the idea of the travel mugs.


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#216814 - 04/09/08 01:11 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Freedom49]
LandOfShadow Offline
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Hey, cool! ! ! Someones interested. LOL

As I've been thinking about this, I'm imagining a good bit of practice handling people. I think if someone quickly asked me,

"So what happened to you? "

I just wouldn't talk about myself much, but try to educate and ask them about their own attitudes and interest. My goal isn't to be all vulnerable with strangers after all. I want them to talk about it from their perspective. Everyone knows a survivor after all.

I'm sure you'd get unfriendly comments too which you'd have to learn to deal with. But I think that would be strengthening in done right.


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Et par le pouvoir d’un mot Je recommence ma vie, Je suis né pour te connaître, Pour te nommer
Liberté

And by the power of a single word I can begin my life again, I was born to know you, to name you
Freedom

Paul Eluard

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#217004 - 04/10/08 03:01 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
USFbull Offline
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I want one! C'mon board of directors!

_________________________
Neither fear nor courage saves us.
Unnatural vices Are fathered by our heroism.
Virtues Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.
These tears are shaken from
the wrath-bearing tree.
~T.S. Eliot~

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#217124 - 04/10/08 06:22 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: USFbull]
king tut Offline
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Loc: UK
i think pens are a good idea, you get pens for lots of things like this, i would quite like a pen, people are not usually too suspicious about pens, they accept that people pick up pens with stuff on everywhere, and if somebody asks you, you can educate them, could bring people into the fold, and then if somebody asked and you wanted to tell that person, it would be somewhere to start

_________________________
"...until lambs become lions"

I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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#217137 - 04/10/08 07:27 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: GateKPR4]
roadrunner Offline
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Ricky,

Originally Posted By: GateKPR4
I would wear the logo shirt, if someone asks I could tell them what I want to disclose or not disclose. Not everyone is receptive to the message. Plus if it had anything else on it I would not be able to wear it to work. Since I spend 40 hrs a week there I would like to be able to wear it while working. I do have a support network at work. A 20oz travel mug would be nice, and Mouse pads, bumper stickers. I believe these would all generate a fair revenue stream to help with WOR funding.


You mean the logo of the three boys' heads? That would be great on a T-shirt! And as you say, the guy wearing the shirt could decide what he discloses and to whom.

We have indeed had T-shirts in the past. I have one from a 2003 conference; it was sent to me when I became a member in 2005, though I had not been to the conference.

Much love,
Larry

_________________________
Nobody living can ever stop me
As I go walking my freedom highway.
Nobody living can make me turn back:
This land was made for you and me.
(Woody Guthrie)

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#217139 - 04/10/08 07:33 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: roadrunner]
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Quote:
You mean the logo of the three boys' heads?


Yes thats the one \:\)

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I'm a normal person dealing with abnormal experiences.
The greatest discoveries we will find within ourselves.
Ricky
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#217151 - 04/10/08 07:56 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: GateKPR4]
king tut Offline
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i would wear that logo, i do really like that logo, i took it the other day and put it into paint and tried to think how i could change it, to make it better, but i found that it was just right as it was
i think people would understand the essence of that logo in many different ways depending on their outlook, its a good idea

_________________________
"...until lambs become lions"

I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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#217871 - 04/13/08 06:57 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: king tut]
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OK...

I happen to own a business that handles this sort of stuff.

If I get the word... I would head up the effort.

I have been trying to think of ways to provide services to MS, because of the great WoR I attended.

I also agree it could be a great revenue stream.

If the BoD... or anyone else wants to contact me, just drop me a PM.

Luv ya all,
Carl

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Shawn and Ben will always be in my heart....

Happiness is like peeing your pants; Everyone can see it, but only YOU feel the warmth.

Peebles, Ohio WOR alumni, Oct. 2007

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#217878 - 04/13/08 08:03 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Scoutvictim]
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I'm on the list for a few if we get permission.

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I'm a freeman now, his authority's dead
no pain monger lies in my comfortable bed!

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#274263 - 02/06/09 10:57 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
christianfather Offline
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Loc: TN
Originally Posted By: LandOfShadow
A picture of a cute smiling little boy with the caption:

"Tell him about sexual abuse,
Or let him experience it himself"

"I wish my parents would have taught me about sexual abuse,
so my abuser wouldn't have."


I would wear this one everywhere. Society doesn't talk much about this and when they do it's usually in regards to girls and not guys. GUESS WHAT PEOPLE, Guys get abused too!!!


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#274276 - 02/07/09 12:35 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: christianfather]
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Registered: 07/27/08
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Loc: TEXAS
Hey, count me in too on that T-shirt.
But ya gotta hurry up with this, as for me time to wear it here on earth is running out. ( a bit of morbid humor). I'll be 70 soon.
Heal well, my brothers/friends.
Pete (Irishmoose)

_________________________
Working Boys' Home 10-14 yrs old, grades 5-8. 1949-1953
____________________________________________________________
A very humble alumni of the WOR Dahlonega, GA.
May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#274293 - 02/07/09 08:05 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: petercorbett]
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Loc: NY state
Awesome idea LoS!
Very powerful statement. Who cares if people get uncomfortable... we were/are. They should wake up.
Any word from the Board of Directors to offer them through the site?

Dan

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When you stumble, make it part of the dance.

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#274318 - 02/07/09 10:42 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Danbuff]
Geeders Offline
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Loc: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
The logo of the three heads speaks volumes to me, and it gives me the ability to respond to a question, or not. If this shirt were available, I'd sure as hell wear it!

Jim

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My name is Jim
WoR Mysthaven 2008, Level 2 WoR Alta 2009, Kirkridge 2010, 2011, Oprah 200 men

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#274327 - 02/07/09 11:22 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Geeders]
king tut Offline
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Ok, this thread has been here since february last year, and this isn't the only thread proposing t-shirts and mugs and things.

I think this is such a good idea.

I guess for me in Britiain it would be a little more difficult to order one, but i guess i can get it shipped over right?

I like the heads one, but also like this one:

A picture of a cute smiling little boy with the caption:

"Tell him about sexual abuse,
Or let him experience it himself"

The other one, with parents, i don't like, its a good message, but parents are abusers too, and i wouldn't wear that one.

So, including me, there are 5 of us who want it just in the last two days.

If Carls business has a website to order from, and if this is all approved through the right channels and the malesurvivor president, then i am sure this can be an easy thing to do.

So who shall we contact, should we contact Carl, shall we put in a query to the moderators to make an official request? and then with their support try to see who else is interested.

I will send off some PM's and see what i get back.

_________________________
"...until lambs become lions"

I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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#274332 - 02/07/09 11:56 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: king tut]
king tut Offline
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Loc: UK
Ok, i have put some wheels in motion, now all we can do is wait

_________________________
"...until lambs become lions"

I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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#274532 - 02/09/09 07:56 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: king tut]
Geeders Offline
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Registered: 09/03/08
Posts: 1901
Loc: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Morning Lewis:

Anything new to report about the shirts?

Jim

_________________________
My name is Jim
WoR Mysthaven 2008, Level 2 WoR Alta 2009, Kirkridge 2010, 2011, Oprah 200 men

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#274555 - 02/09/09 09:59 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Geeders]
joelRT Offline
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Loc: Québec, Canada
I wanna have a T-shirt too!!!

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My Story 1
My Story 2
The longest journey we take is to self-discovery

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#274647 - 02/09/09 10:26 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: LandOfShadow]
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Ken Followell

Everything works out right in the end. If things are not working right, it isn't the end yet. Don't let it bother you, relax and keep on goin
- Michael C. Muhammad

"I get up. I walk. I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing."
� Rabbi Hillel

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#274665 - 02/10/09 12:20 AM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Ken Followell]
petercorbett Offline
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Registered: 07/27/08
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Loc: TEXAS
Hi Guys,

Well we wanted T-Shirts, MS logo.

I just ordered mine. I'll wear it to my first T appointment when I get to Texas.

Heal well my brothers/friends.
Pete (Irishmoose)

_________________________
Working Boys' Home 10-14 yrs old, grades 5-8. 1949-1953
____________________________________________________________
A very humble alumni of the WOR Dahlonega, GA.
May 15-17 2009, Alta, Sep. 2009. Sequoia, 2010.
Hope Springs, 2010.


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#274967 - 02/12/09 05:48 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: petercorbett]
king tut Offline
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now that is progress, i like the polo shirt the best, with the small logo, it looks very smart

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"...until lambs become lions"

I love you, little lewis, and i will never leave you. We are the same. You brighten my day, and i will make sure that i brighten yours. Hugs and kisses.


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#354970 - 02/26/11 06:44 PM Re: T shirt idea [Re: Freedom49]
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Posts: 433
I think a better way to promote safety for boys would be to invite parents to "Learn to Protect Your Children" Townhall type meetings in every neighborhood where male survivors could educate and tell the horrors of what happens to many survivors who were not protected.....Knowing the chances of this occurring and the horror of living with it might help to protect children....It could be like out-reach in Africa to teach them about the risks of the epidemic of aids.......people were just so unaware as they are here with this problem


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