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#204533 - 02/10/08 10:45 AM Buddhism
AndyJB2005 Offline
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Are there any Buddhist (or Buddhist-like) guys here? \:\) I study it -- though only in practice and theory, not as a religion -- and it's helped me so much in my recovery!

It's a good way to get our of out Selves and look within, I think. Any experience in this?

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#204541 - 02/10/08 11:04 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: AndyJB2005]
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Andy -

My therapist suggested that I read a book called "Buddhism Plain and Simple" by Steve Hagen. It is a very basic introduction to buddhist principles. I've read and re-read the book several times, and I find that the buddhist principles feel right to me, in a way that conventional beliefs about God, religion, Christianity -- don't. I have interest in studying further. Do you have resources or suggestions that have helped you? I find I have to really concentrate on what I read and read it several times before it starts to make sense.

Thanks for bringing up the subject, I'm interested to hear how you study, how you apply to your life.

Kurt


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#204703 - 02/11/08 10:50 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: AndyJB2005]
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I've called myself a buddhist for several years now - read lots of books and maintained an erratic meditation practice. It has been very helpful to me. I'll go through my books later when I'm at home and post more!

Mike


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#204751 - 02/11/08 06:17 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: mike5]
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hi

many kinds/schools of buddhism to choose from

google "Thich Nhat Hahn" or "Pema Chodron" or if you are really brave "Osho"

i have learned from all of them

namaste


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#204770 - 02/11/08 09:05 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: ineffable]
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I went to religious university where one of the elective courses was to study another religion - I chose buddhism.
It was interesting - I did a 'lab' at a zen shrine outside of Washington DC where I learned different kinds of meditation (walking and sitting.)

I don't ascribe to buddhism - but certainly meditation has been something good to me. I take solace in a lot of teachings from all religions I've studied.

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#204961 - 02/13/08 04:47 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: AndyJB2005]
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I've been practicing and studying buddhism on and off for years and began practicing intensely about 5 years ago. I have a daily mediation practice and have read pretty widely across various buddhist and yogic traditions.

I've found a buddhist or zen practice to be amazingly helpful in my own healing and recovery. The practice of just sitting and training your mind to be present and not consumed with flight or distraction has been pretty powerful for me.

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#204962 - 02/13/08 05:01 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: MagRaith]
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Originally Posted By: MagRaith
Andy -

I find I have to really concentrate on what I read and read it several times before it starts to make sense.



That's pretty much the essence of it, you have to keep coming back to the practice, the readings, the concept. Steve Hagen teaches that it's all about coming back to the cushion, to the breath, to the mind. Just keep coming back and soon it becomes part of your daily practice, the rythym of your life.

His teacher was Dainin Katagiri who wrote a book called Returning to Silence. It was recommended to me by a therapist over 15 years ago and there's a quote I love in it that I always come back to to this day:

"The main purpose of Buddhism is to form the habit of practice as a vow forever. This is just taking a journey in the universe, day by day, step by step. It is like walking in a mist. We don't know what the mist is, we don't know where we are walking or why; all we have to do is just walk. This is Buddha's practice."

Steve Hagen has a new book out called Meditation Now or Never that looks pretty good too.

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#205325 - 02/15/08 01:59 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: milarepa_rocks]
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I grew up Catholic, but have found Buddhism very appealing. I especially liked the views on attachment and attaching ourselves to things and people, and how that leads to suffering. It stresses finding the 'middle way' or balance in our lives.

I am reading a book called "Awakening The Buddha Within" by Lama Surya Das. It talks about Buddhism in practical, western-oriented terms. I definitely suggest it for people that are curious about the religion.

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#205496 - 02/16/08 02:07 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: menspeakout]
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This is somewhat off topic, and I hope I don't offend anybody, but I think it is hilarious; I saw a T-shirt at Mardi Gras that said,

"I have the body of a God... unfortunately it's Budda!"

Sorry. Shutting up now...

Lazarus

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#205542 - 02/16/08 06:43 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: Lazarus]
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A little levity never hurt, Laz. I saw that too. made me smile hysterically! Can one do that? Shutting up as well...

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#206208 - 02/19/08 05:38 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: WalkingSouth]
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I see the humor, though not in the way the shirt intended.

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#206230 - 02/19/08 07:31 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: menspeakout]
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One of my housemates in college became a Tibetan Buddhist monk, ordained by the Dalai Lama himself, and I learned a tremendous amount from him. Buddhism is a very attractive philosophy, and I'm pleased that it somehow manages to bridge the gap between my Marxist dialectical materialism and my neo-Kabbalistic Jewish mysticism. Indeed, if I were not a Jew, I'd probably be a Buddhist.

When I have actually allowed myself to practice meditation, it has been relaxing and invigorating. But just on a cognitive level the understanding of the impermanence of all things is very comforting.

No matter how awful life may be, no matter what terrible things may have happened to us in the past or will happen to us in the future, they are only temporary. Pain, sorrow, regret, fear -- all will pass away like a wisp of smoke on a windy day. Too often I get trapped in the mindset that if things suck now, then that means they'll suck forever. Not so -- nothing lasts forever.

The insight that desire and attachment to transitory things is the root of all suffering helps one focus on what one's true needs really are.

A friend of mine has had a great deal of success over the past two years integrating Buddhist teachings into his life and especially through meditation and yoga. I did yoga once a few years ago and enjoyed it, but I don't think it's my thing yet. But meditation -- I've got plenty of books on the subject and I know what to do. It's just finding the time to do it.

Traditionally, I've used sex and books and computer games to escape to nullify my thoughts. Fun, but not necessarily healthy.

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#206350 - 02/20/08 11:23 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: VLinvictus]
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I saw this on Salon today & thought some might find it interesting

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/02/20/dharma_in_dive_bars/

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#206382 - 02/20/08 02:05 PM Re: Buddhism [Re: ineffable]
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I have a shirt that has a Buddha on it and says on the front: "What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?" On the back: "Make me one with everything."

LOL -- I like Buddhism in that a lot of Buddhists have a sense of humor about religion and it's not hands-off as much as western religions. \:\)

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#206932 - 02/23/08 10:37 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: AndyJB2005]
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I consider my two favorite philosophies Taoism and Zen Buddhism. I honestly don't know where i'd be right now without them. I really want to get back to going to this Zen meditation every Wednesday night in a beautiful Buddhist temple in town. I miss it. Anyway, i don't know if i'd be here now if not for what i learned from these two philosophies. It used to be that when i wanted to die i would attempt suicide. Now when i get to that point i just do what a Zen monk once put so simply to me.."just stop making this."

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#207239 - 02/25/08 01:04 AM Re: Buddhism [Re: WalkingSouth]
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Originally Posted By: walkingsouth
A little levity never hurt, Laz. I saw that too. made me smile hysterically! Can one do that? Shutting up as well...

Indeed. If you meet the Buddha, kill him! \:\)


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