Being a survivor of abuse gives me a different angle on life, and how I perceive things.
I am not saying that to justify what I say, but, what about all the cover ups we see in society today!

If we take the child abuse cases reported, then we find that most of the cases are brought by abused kids, often years after it happened.

I flash things around in my mind, and cannot think of one case that the cops have brought to the courts with their own investigation.

We have pedos vying for government, we have open forums with pedos conversing openly, so why not track them down, or is that just too obvious.

We live in society where drugs are rife, and anti-social behaviour, but why cant they get to the root of the problem?

All of us come to this site, and see that pedos are getting away with murder, and authorities who could track them seem reluctant to intervene.

This leaves only one conclusion, and that is that they are complicit with what goes on.
Everywhere you go on the net is traceable, and pedos could be swatted like flies, but no way.

Kirk goes to sites that are frequented by pedos, actively talking about what they feel like doing or are doing, and these sites would surely be closed if those who govern us where not complicit in pedophilia.

Every abuse site could be closed down in no time if they used available spiders on the net.
Authorities know it can be done, but why dont they act?

One issue is to think that government sanctions the right of free speech, the other is to say they are complicit in forming rings of abusers, who they use to supply kids.

It is the only thing that I can think of, in why, these pedos are never investigated,

ste

Hi Ste, I know how you feel. Someone posted this before. Perverted-Justice
While I could not do what they are doing, I have to take my hat off to them for doing it.

Take care,
Clifford

Just being a pedophile and thinking pedophilic thoughts isn't enough to get arrested (much as we might wish that were true). Police need real evidence of a crime, or a direct witness, before they're even allowed to act. I'm sure it doesn't make them happy to just stand around and do nothing, but they have little choice. It takes just the slightest misstep by law enforcement to set a pedophile free and make him virtually untouchable. Lawyers looking to make reputations won't hesitate to take a suspected pedophile's case if they think they can win - and when they think they can win, they're usually right.

As for the pedo sites - rest assured, the police practically live on them. As soon as any perv on such a site says something actionable, they're nabbed.

Think about how once every couple of months, you hear about a "ring" being dismantled, and dozens of people being hauled in. That sort of thing takes patience and lots of hard work; it also means holding off until you know for absolute certain there's no way for the perps to get off the hook.

Do not worry; they are on our side.

Ste,

In a way, perhaps it's a good thing that pedophiles take the astonishing step of setting up websites where their identities and everything they say can be tracked and watched.

Perhaps this is naive, but these days I don't think much of the public would be convinced by anything they say. And we all know that pedophiles are so difficult to track down because they hide behind their outwardly respectable reputations and ordinary lifestyles. So I often wonder, don't they realize that their sites more or less announce, "Here we are"?

Much love,
Larry

The internet is a wonderful spin machine. They're not just saying "here we are", they're trying to spin pedophilia as simply an "alternative lifestyle", and people who disagree with it as "bigots".

What got me to write this is the agonising fact of a little girl murdered in Scotland.
The mother is asking for Government documents that are classified to be made available to the courts.

Why? Are these documents so secretive!
Is it because they uncovered the grim secret, that authoritive figures would be identified as pedos active in society!

This is not the first time, Ian Huntley, Thomas Hamilton, the list goes on and on, where the cases are given D notices.

These people never worked alone, they were running a 'service' to the ringmasters.
The public need to know who the Government are hiding behind such secrecy, not withstanding Government serving ministers hiding behind D notices.

The only strength is the need for the truth,

ste

Melliferal,

My "here we are" comment just referred to how readily visible their sites make their users, visitors and members, but yes, I take your point and your post makes me think about this further.

Perhaps I am being too naive and intellectual about the whole thing (my wife says I shouldn't be trusted to judge the character of anyone more nefarious than Santa). It just seemed to me that the arguments are so obviously bullshit that no reasonable person would take them seriously. I remember there was a thread on NAMBLA here on the board, so off I went to their site to see what's up. The content was shocking and I didn't linger, but my main impression was that this was a tiny group of pervs talking rubbish to each other and not finding much success in reaching a broader audience.

The problem there is that there are lots of other things that are also totally bullshit and are still taken seriously.

There's also the fact that these sites are part of pedophile networks, which they use in sharing information with each other.

It seems outrageous that these sites remain up, but I suppose it's rather like the Nazi Party and the Ku Klux Klan: the principle of free speech and democracy for all of us comes at this cost - all these pricks get their right to spew their garbage.

Much love,
Larry

Ste,

I wouldn't be surprised to discover that there are indeed pedophiles in very high places. There doesn't seem to be any other sector of society that is immune from contamination - not even police forces, social services, the medical profession, education, or the church - so why should we expect that government would be secure?

But I wonder at the more conspiratorial aspects you talk about. How solid is the evidence, for example? That's one thing about conspiracy theories: they can sound very convincing without having much evidence to prop them up. I saw a book recently, for example, that has already collected a whole volume of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

I hope this doesn't sound dismissive. I guess I'm just curious as to how you would respond to this view of things.

Much love,
Larry

Those sites most definitely help foster smaller "networks" of individual and interconnected pedos, whether they're sharing information or other things. When I read one of their bulletin boards, for instance (and yes, some of their attitudes on various subjects are sickening), it seems when a person is arrested who happens to be a poster there, all kinds of paranoid hysteria pops up. It's kind of fulfilling to watch these wanks tremble in fear. It's like I'm living vicariously through the police.

As to the "in high places" issue, well yes, there are certainly pedophiles in high places in government. Remember this spring's arrest of the Department of Homeland Security's deputy press secretary, after he was caught soliciting sex from a minor online ? As that article shows, however, even those highly-placed people aren't immune from prosecution.